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Old 07-29-2008, 03:29 AM
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It's easy to dislike a candidate when half-truths are spread and then retold as facts.
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:38 AM
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Golfhobo's post shows exactly what is wrong with politics today - it has become a game of "yeah, my guy isn't qualified, but let's look at how bad the guy on your side is!"
Rev, you're entitlted to your "interpretation" of my post, but it is not the way it was intended. I DO agree that oftentimes this decision DOES come down to 'the lesser of two evils," but I, too, would prefer not to have to make a choice based on that.

My purpose was just to show how silly people sound when they just "dismiss" the opponents platform or policies by saying "they will only ruin everything we have," while not realizing the problems with what we DO have.

I bash Bush because I hate what the MAN has done to the country. I TRY not to bash ALL conservatives as one, although I do sometimes attack an overall position or policy that most of them share.

Thanks to people like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh.... MANY if not most Conservatives espouse their hatred for ALL Liberals. The recent church shooting is a manifestation of this "class" hatred. When was the last time we heard of a Liberal shooting down a bunch of conservatives in church?
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Golfhobo's post shows exactly what is wrong with politics today - it has become a game of "yeah, my guy isn't qualified, but let's look at how bad the guy on your side is!"
Rev, you're entitlted to your "interpretation" of my post, but it is not the way it was intended.
I can only go based upon what you posted, and since you failed to address any of the concerns about Obama, but rather pointed the finger at McCain, I stand by my statement.

I would love to see some of the solutions those who are bashing the current administration can come up with.
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Golfhobo's post shows exactly what is wrong with politics today - it has become a game of "yeah, my guy isn't qualified, but let's look at how bad the guy on your side is!"
Rev, you're entitlted to your "interpretation" of my post, but it is not the way it was intended.
I can only go based upon what you posted, and since you failed to address any of the concerns about Obama, but rather pointed the finger at McCain, I stand by my statement.

I would love to see some of the solutions those who are bashing the current administration can come up with.
I thought I was pretty clear in my clarification of my post. Only the first two points even ADDRESSED McCain... and they were obviously tongue in cheek.

Only time will tell, but as of now, I think YOU are the only one who misunderstood both my post AND my explanation and motives. Figure the odds! :roll:

I don't want to hijack THIS thread into a comparison of policies, but just to give one example to your last question....

I would lower the cost of meds, especially for the retired, by lifting the ban on "RE-importation" of the same name brand meds that are made here and shipped to Canada. This would lower costs for insurance companies AND the end user, and it is certainly consistent with the Free Market beliefs of conservatives. You want free market capitalism and competitiion? Get your congressmen to insist on this.

Where EITHER of the candates stand on this, I can't honestly say.
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo

I thought I was pretty clear in my clarification of my post. Only the first two points even ADDRESSED McCain... and they were obviously tongue in cheek.

Only time will tell, but as of now, I think YOU are the only one who misunderstood both my post AND my explanation and motives. Figure the odds! :roll:
Yes, I am not psychic, nor do I claim to be. You, on the other hand, claim to be psychic all the time, and apparently expect everyone else to be as well.

I don't want to hijack THIS thread into a comparison of policies, but just to give one example to your last question....

I would lower the cost of meds, especially for the retired, by lifting the ban on "RE-importation" of the same name brand meds that are made here and shipped to Canada. This would lower costs for insurance companies AND the end user, and it is certainly consistent with the Free Market beliefs of conservatives. You want free market capitalism and competitiion? Get your congressmen to insist on this.
Importing the medications from Canada does nothing to solve the underlying problem. Why do you think the cost of those medications is so high in the first place? Do you honestly believe the cost of Canadian medications would stay the same if the US allowed consumers to import them?
 
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i think a good part of it is that our votes dont really matter anymore, the real votes that win somebody into office are those of the electoral college...


yet another good reason to say FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!!!
 
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Originally Posted by chubyboy
i think a good part of it is that our votes dont really matter anymore, the real votes that win somebody into office are those of the electoral college...


yet another good reason to say **** THE GOVERNMENT!!!
I disagree. The United States is not a democracy, where majority rules. It is a representative government. The electoral college system prevents the elected officials from being picked by a few major population areas. It attempts to give an equal, or more equal, voice to less populated states. Without it, those states wouldn't have a voice at all, unless they were in agreement with the more populated states. While it doesn't work perfectly every time, it is a much better system than a simple majority vote. I for one don't want the Northeast states choosing my President for me.
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:49 AM
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Rev said:

Yes, I am not psychic, nor do I claim to be. You, on the other hand, claim to be psychic all the time, and apparently expect everyone else to be as well.
Please find one quote where I CLAIM any such thing. Don't include anything you THINK implies psychic powers. YOU used the word psychic. Either quote ME using it, or drop it.

I would, however, expect one of your claimed intelligence to be better at comprehending my posts and English in general.

Importing the medications from Canada does nothing to solve the underlying problem. Why do you think the cost of those medications is so high in the first place? Do you honestly believe the cost of Canadian medications would stay the same if the US allowed consumers to import them?
Well.... if they wouldn't, then there goes your theory on capitalism and market competition.... and I guess the better course of action would be government regulation.... which you call "Socialism." You wanted an example. I gave you one. And now you want to argue with me about it? How unlike you! :lol:
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
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Yes, I am not psychic, nor do I claim to be. You, on the other hand, claim to be psychic all the time, and apparently expect everyone else to be as well.
Please find one quote where I CLAIM any such thing. Don't include anything you THINK implies psychic powers. YOU used the word psychic. Either quote ME using it, or drop it.
I don't need to quote you using the word. Your posts speak louder than that. Here is one example from this thread:

Originally Posted by golfhobo
I think YOU are the only one who misunderstood both my post AND my explanation and motives.
Since nobody else weighed in on the subject, the only way I can see that you could come to this conclusion is the belief that you are psychic.

I would, however, expect one of your claimed intelligence to be better at comprehending my posts and English in general.
I am, which is why I stated:

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I can only go based upon what you posted,
The intent of the post, or the "spirit" of it (as I know you love to use that word), is irrelevant when the actual words speak otherwise.

Importing the medications from Canada does nothing to solve the underlying problem. Why do you think the cost of those medications is so high in the first place? Do you honestly believe the cost of Canadian medications would stay the same if the US allowed consumers to import them?
Well.... if they wouldn't, then there goes your theory on capitalism and market competition....
What theory would that be? I wasn't aware that I presented a theory on capitalism or market competition.

and I guess the better course of action would be government regulation.... which you call "Socialism."
Do I call it Socialism? Where?

You wanted an example. I gave you one. And now you want to argue with me about it? How unlike you! :lol:
That is what an internet message board is for - to converse ideas, and to debate them. If you don't want people to debate you, I suggest you write a book, and ignore the reviews.
 
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:55 AM
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Rev once again ignores the first part of a statement for the purpose of emphasizing the last part:

golfhobo wrote:
I think YOU are the only one who misunderstood both my post AND my explanation and motives.
Since nobody else weighed in on the subject, the only way I can see that you could come to this conclusion is the belief that you are psychic.
Thanks for proving my point. I said you didn't understand clausal relationships in English composition, and you just proved it.

If you include the first part of my statement....

Only time will tell, but as of now...
you would not be so BLIND as to only see what you want to see. But, you have proved several times that that is the way you "see" things.

Perhaps, I DID give everyone else too much credit. I'm sure a few of your groupies will see it your way. But "thinking" others will understand my words is not the same as "claiming" that they do.

Rev also says...

I don't need to quote you using the word.
Of course not, if you insist on making the rules. But then, how can you ask...

What theory would that be? I wasn't aware that I presented a theory on capitalism or market competition.


Do I call it Socialism? Where?
 
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