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#21
04-19-2008, 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Originally Posted by Slimland
How is it foolish Fozzy? What is the diffrence-Beside's the subject? We have seen wars faught for Religion, Land, Disagreements etc.. I see no diffrence, Like I said a tool for man to use-- to impress there desire's upon another.. That is what War is all about.
Trying to imply that homosexuality, has had, or could ever have the influence to start the actual wars and wholesale slaughter that religion has in the short history of mankind is almost as stupid as the buffet religious types that use it as a defense for their bigotry every single day. To imply this especially since the recent circumstances in my life was either horribly blatant stupidity or yet another classless low blow by someone who thinks it will bolster support by other buffet types.. Either of these is something that I have grown accustom to in this venue.
My son was supported and well loved by a few relatives and friends who happen to be homosexuals.. he was killed by the same logic and barbarism that the buffet religious types historically love to use to condone their actions.. Same behavior. Have a good life... I hope your beliefs make you continue to feel superior to those you hate...
Trying to imply that homosexuality, has had, or could ever have the influence to start the actual wars and wholesale slaughter that religion has in the short history of mankind is almost as stupid as the buffet religious types that use it as a defense for their bigotry every single day.
Maybe your not quit ready to be back in the debate area's! You seem to take this too personaly, and every comment on religion, polotics, or war. You seem to get a little testy and personal..
To imply this especially since the recent circumstances in my life was either horribly blatant stupidity or yet another classless low blow by someone who thinks it will bolster support by other buffet types.. Either of these is something that I have grown accustom to in this venue.
Case and point in the above.. Fozzy you know me better than that, You know that I like to argue and debate, wether I am the for or against.. This had NOTHING to do with you, or any of yours. It was for the sake of argument. So if you felt or where Offended, then I Apologize-- that was not my intention.
My son was supported and well loved by a few relatives and friends who happen to be homosexuals.. he was killed by the same logic and barbarism that the buffet religious types historically love to use to condone their actions.. Same behavior.
As for Homosexuals you and I both have been down this road of discussion. I have Nothing against them, it is there life.. I might not agree with there lifestyle, but I do not judge them. AGAIN it was for the sake of argument. And Again maybe your not ready to argue yet. Your taking it personaly.
Have a good life... I hope your beliefs make you continue to feel superior to those you hate..
Sincerely Slimland
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#22
04-20-2008, 03:58 AM
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Originally Posted by Slimland
How is it foolish Fozzy? What is the diffrence-Beside's the subject? We have seen wars faught for Religion, Land, Disagreements etc.. I see no diffrence, Like I said a tool for man to use-- to impress there desire's upon another.. That is what War is all about.
My son was supported and well loved by a few relatives and friends who happen to be homosexuals.. he was killed by the same logic and barbarism that the buffet religious types historically love to use to condone their actions.. Same behavior. Have a good life... I hope your beliefs make you continue to feel superior to those you hate... I don't know how far out in the sticks you live, but in Chicago hate crimes against Gays and Lesbians are an almost daily occurence. It is a war! And my homosexual friends don't appreciate the activists such as this lesbian, adding any more fuel to the fire. It's stupid and selfish. Her demanding that photographer provide a service for her commitment ceremony is no different than somone demanding she go back in the closet. If she wants the right to live her life as she chooses she should allow other people to do the same! There is a vast difference between equal treatment and special treatment and using being homosexual to force people to do something against their beliefs is just as wrong as any other group insisting everyone live their way. And that includes you! And when did the current war become a religious war? I must have missed that news brief! I also didn't see anyone except you say anything about hating anyone. This discussion was about legal rights, you're the one making blanket accusations.
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#23
04-21-2008, 02:13 AM
It isn't foolish or insulting. Any time one group, whatever it is, tries to force their beliefs or opinions on another group it eventually leads to a fight. The battlefield right now is the court system, and our freedom is the only casualty because the Courts are trying to dictate what our moral view should be.
:lol: On a more serious note, everybody take a step back and a couple deep breaths. No need to let things get personal.
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#24
04-21-2008, 06:52 AM
Maybe we should just have the Fab 5 come in and redecorate in a Zen theme, just to make everyone relax a bit more. :wink:
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#25
04-23-2008, 09:39 AM
Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
It isn't foolish or insulting. Any time one group, whatever it is, tries to force their beliefs or opinions on another group it eventually leads to a fight. The battlefield right now is the court system, and our freedom is the only casualty because the Courts are trying to dictate what our moral view should be.
:lol: On a more serious note, everybody take a step back and a couple deep breaths. No need to let things get personal. That would be an interesting site. :shock: I dont' know if it was all meant to be personal, But givin the circumstances-- I understand and do not hold it against Fozzy. He IMOP is still a friend that I can disagree with, and Hope when time heals the wounds, he comes back to play.! Slimland
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#26
04-24-2008, 02:12 AM
Slim,
Losing a child is one of the hardest things any one can ever go through. You lose a part of yourself. Your world is turned upside down and inside out and it's hard to understand why the rest of the world is just going on as if nothing happened. Things that you wouldn' think twice about before, set off a reaction that sometimes, even you don't understand. I hope at some level Fozzy knows this was never a personal attack against him or his family and friends. And most especially not about his son. I don't think there is anyone on this board that would sink that low, especially not you. This one involved the 2 big No No's, religion and politics and those are topics that people very often take very personally, even when it isn't meant that way. Reb
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#27
04-24-2008, 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by RebelDarlin
Slim,
Losing a child is one of the hardest things any one can ever go through. You lose a part of yourself. Your world is turned upside down and inside out and it's hard to understand why the rest of the world is just going on as if nothing happened. Things that you wouldn' think twice about before, set off a reaction that sometimes, even you don't understand. I hope at some level Fozzy knows this was never a personal attack against him or his family and friends. And most especially not about his son. I don't think there is anyone on this board that would sink that low, especially not you. This one involved the 2 big No No's, religion and politics and those are topics that people very often take very personally, even when it isn't meant that way. Reb
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You can twist perceptions Reality won't budge You can raise objections I will be the judge And the jury Neil Peart
#29
04-26-2008, 01:54 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
AW.... what the heck... I'll jump in here! :roll:
edited.
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You can twist perceptions Reality won't budge You can raise objections I will be the judge And the jury Neil Peart
#30
04-26-2008, 03:56 AM
Originally Posted by Slimland
Originally Posted by RebelDarlin
Slim,
Losing a child is one of the hardest things any one can ever go through. You lose a part of yourself. Your world is turned upside down and inside out and it's hard to understand why the rest of the world is just going on as if nothing happened. Things that you wouldn' think twice about before, set off a reaction that sometimes, even you don't understand. I hope at some level Fozzy knows this was never a personal attack against him or his family and friends. And most especially not about his son. I don't think there is anyone on this board that would sink that low, especially not you. This one involved the 2 big No No's, religion and politics and those are topics that people very often take very personally, even when it isn't meant that way. Reb Reb
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln |
