Is Bush doing a good job?

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Old 01-13-2008, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Windwalker "quoted" :

these are powerful thoughts... pass them on!!!... james
Sorry, WW.... I have always respected you (and still do,) but this is absolute TRASH!

Nearly EVERY statement made in the inflammatory email you chose to "pass on," is INCORRECT, unfounded, biased and worthless! I HOPE this thread survives long enough for me to return to it with some clarifications. Meanwhile...... consider this:

Every president you listed was a "Wartime President" (to SOME extent) and therefore subject to some disapproval based solely on Americans' "supposed" distaste for WAR...... yet.....

Compare the approval ratings (at their LOWEST if you wish) for EACH of the presidents you listed.... and compare them to Dubya's!! :shock:

And PLEASE LIST THEM!

Of course, there IS more to the Thread Question than JUST war.... but on nearly EVERY facet of it.... the answer is still a resounding NO!!

I must admit to being disappointed, WW. I really thought YOU were above "buying" and spreading this type of "internet arson."
To be completely honest, there are significant differences contributing to "Dubya's" approval ratings. Namely, the "drive by media." Anyone who takes a candid look at the "Old Media," can see the liberal bias. Thankfully, Talk Radio and the Internet have come upon the scene to break this monopoly. Even at their worst "Dubya's poor approval ratings are double what the democratically controlled Congresses are.
 
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:05 AM
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To be completely honest, there are significant differences contributing to "Dubya's" approval ratings. Namely, the "drive by media." Anyone who takes a candid look at the "Old Media," can see the liberal bias.
For a moment, Terry..... I was inclined to give you a point there. But, THEN I remembered historical references to "Yellow Journalism" and actually remembered the "old media" that I grew up with. Chet Huntley and David Brinkley.... and "that other guy" whose name escapes me at the moment. [Oh yeah.... Walter Cronkite!]

Fact is, it has ALWAYS been part of the job of a journalist to cast doubt upon the "official story," or to "investigate" the backstory. Sure, in the old days, there was a bit more straight reporting of the news, but journalists have ALWAYS had a mind and opinion of their own... AND the license to speak it!

Were you a "newshound" like me when CNN first started? Or MSNBC? I was basically "undecided" politically at that time, and NEVER felt those agencies were overly biased, other than the normal bias of ANY media against the "sitting administration." I will admit things are quite a bit different NOW, but then..... SURELY you don't think that FOXNEWS is "fair and balanced!" They are the mouthpiece of the GOP, meant to counter the "perceived" (or real) bias of CNN and (I guess MSNBC.)

Point is..... all you have to do is google "yellow journalism" to find out that this is NOTHING NEW! So..... your argument is dismissed. :wink:


Thankfully, Talk Radio and the Internet have come upon the scene to break this monopoly. Even at their worst "Dubya's poor approval ratings are double what the democratically controlled Congresses are.
Internet "blogs" are nothing BUT bias.... and I avoid them! But, Talk Radio has been around as long as I have been alive! The only difference today, is the MOTIVATION and MISSION of today's GOP talk radio shows, which are designed to INDOCTRINATE the conservatives, and to constantly "dismiss" anything reported by the REAL media as being biased!

I'm not real impressed with the CURRENT Congress, but I doubt you will find any PREVIOUS "democratic controlled" congress with a lower approval rating than George W. Bush! If so..... CITE the link. Either way.... you are comparing apples to oranges! We are talking about Presidential Approval Ratings. Since "Dubya's" approval rating is HOVERING somewhere around 30-35%..... PLEASE show me figures or citations that prove THIS or any OTHER congress's ratings were anywhere near 15%.

But, STILL..... the point is, that Dubya's ratings are the LOWEST in history.... INCLUDING all the Presidents cited in the original post..... ALL (or most) of whom were Democrats.... and ALL of whom had to suffer the backlash of even FAILED wartime efforts! ...... and according to Dubya, HE'S not even FAILING in his war effort! :shock: :lol: :roll:

Yes... there IS a difference in today's situation that has led to Dubya's dismal ratings.... and I'll tell you what it IS! It is the approx 60% of die-hard REPUBLICANS that have "defected" and are no longer supporting him, that has led to the lowest ratings for a sitting President in American History! And THAT (to this extent) has NEVER before happened in our country! :roll:

But.... keep listening to Rush Limbaugh, and reading the blogs of cyber IDIOTS and you can AVOID knowing the TRUTH! After all.... by definition.... it takes a LIBERAL mind to consider both sides to the story! :wink:
 
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
Again... *snicker*... It amazes me that adults can be so selectively blind to fact and history...
Aahahahaha - Fact, history and what led to the conflict.

Sorry I try'd not to comment... Really hard. I'll stop now. Carry-on.
 
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Well, now. Think of it. Everybody has the war in Iraq on their minds, don't they. Speculate on our reason for being there. Right?

No one is saying anything about American Banks on the verge of collapse. No one was saying a word about all the Mortgage Forclosures until it became an epidemic. Some 30% of all credit card accounts are in the rears. Defaulted. The war in Iraq has turned your attention away from the rest of it here at home, hasn't it?

Looks to me like the diversion is working.
 
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Originally Posted by Windwalker
Well, now. Think of it. Everybody has the war in Iraq on their minds, don't they. Speculate on our reason for being there. Right?

No one is saying anything about American Banks on the verge of collapse. No one was saying a word about all the Mortgage Forclosures until it became an epidemic. Some 30% of all credit card accounts are in the rears. Defaulted. The war in Iraq has turned your attention away from the rest of it here at home, hasn't it?

Looks to me like the diversion is working.
I eagerly await the credit collapse! These dummies here have been living fake lives financed to the hilt for long enough. Time to get back to reality. If you live by financing everything, then you don't own anything anyway. These morons who bought 200K worth of house when they couldn't afford it deserve what is coming and so do all the schlubs who financed them. Time to get back to basics.
 
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:46 PM
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Hobo...

I received that email and thought it was interesting. Nothing more. I thought there might be others here that would not mind reading it. It's sort of like those chain letters that keep getting FORWARDED around the country 4 and 5 times over or more. I simply thought I'd take a short-cut. I even considered putting it in the comedy section.
 
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The National Debt under Georgie Bush is $9,194,932,687,406!!!!! Keep in mind we were on a balanced budget with NO debt prior to him taking office. Now, Bush wants to throw another $150 billion into the pile under his "economic stimulus" plan. This country is on the verge of a financial meltdown and he thinks $800 per adult is going to just suddenly turn everything around. What an idiot. I can't believe I voted for this clown TWICE!

Someone mentioned the housing market and how people lived well beyond their means. I couldn't agree more. But why is it okay to to give banks and mortgage companies government backed bailout money but not give any assistance to homeowners? The old saying "It takes two to tango" comes to mind. The banks were just as culpable as the borrowers for all of these bad loans. All Bush and Company could come up with is "we'll freeze your adjustable rate" plan that affected a miniscule number of borrowers. Then he only made it voluntary for banks to even offer it. Sounds a lot like the bailout money($15 billion) Bush threw to the airlines after Sept 11. That worked out real well didn't it? People still lost thier jobs and with 5 of the major airlines filing bankruptcy anyways.

I'm a die hard conservative Republican, but even I have to admit Bush has really screwed this country and its citizens. Every President should have the goal to leave the office of President better than when he got there.

What has Bush accomplished?
Bin Laden is still alive.
Afganistan is still in turmoil.
3,931 American soldiers are dead in Iraq.
Stuck in an endless war. It will be 5 years in March.
$9,194,932,687,406 in debt and growing every day.
Economy in shambles.

But, my family will be $1600 richer this spring. :roll:

I can't wait until he's gone.
 
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Originally Posted by greg3564
The National Debt under Georgie Bush is $9,194,932,687,406!!!!! Keep in mind we were on a balanced budget with NO debt prior to him taking office. Now, Bush wants to throw another $150 billion into the pile under his "economic stimulus" plan. This country is on the verge of a financial meltdown and he thinks $800 per adult is going to just suddenly turn everything around. What an idiot. I can't believe I voted for this clown TWICE!

Someone mentioned the housing market and how people lived well beyond their means. I couldn't agree more. But why is it okay to to give banks and mortgage companies government backed bailout money but not give any assistance to homeowners? The old saying "It takes two to tango" comes to mind. The banks were just as culpable as the borrowers for all of these bad loans. All Bush and Company could come up with is "we'll freeze your adjustable rate" plan that affected a miniscule number of borrowers. Then he only made it voluntary for banks to even offer it. Sounds a lot like the bailout money($15 billion) Bush threw to the airlines after Sept 11. That worked out real well didn't it? People still lost thier jobs and with 5 of the major airlines filing bankruptcy anyways.

I'm a die hard conservative Republican, but even I have to admit Bush has really screwed this country and its citizens. Every President should have the goal to leave the office of President better than when he got there.

What has Bush accomplished?
Bin Laden is still alive.
Afganistan is still in turmoil.
3,931 American soldiers are dead in Iraq.
Stuck in an endless war. It will be 5 years in March.
$9,194,932,687,406 in debt and growing every day.
Economy in shambles.

But, my family will be $1600 richer this spring. :roll:

I can't wait until he's gone.
Balanced budget? *snicker*... it never happened in the real world. It only happened in the minds of the liberal lapdogs.
 
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And, as I understand it, all the money spent on the war, adds to the debt and works to hasten the collapse.

Heh, heh,heh, heh, heh...

No wonder there are so many credit cards in default. Our own government is showing us how to go about it. :roll:
 
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Amen to that one Windwalker. Considering this is the ONLY WAR since the Revolution fought on CREDit. Bush is fighting a 2 front war Afgahanstan and Iraq and is putting the whole thing on a credit card. Every other time we have gone to war taxes were increased DURING AND AFTER TO PAY FOR IT. What did DUBBA BUSH tell us to do to support and pay for the war GO SHOPPING like that is going to pay for over a trillion bucks on the Nations credit card Dubba this is not a business that you can freaking declare baukrupcy with this is a nation that someday the creditors will want their money.

Look for MAJOR BANKS TO COLLASPE LIKE BANK OF AMERICA AND WACHOVIA AND SOME OTHERS YOU CAN NOT LOOSE 18 BILLION IN A QUARTER FOR LONG AND STAY ALONG.
 

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