jedfxg! Dude you need to chill you are about to blow a gasket. Nobody is disrespecting the dead or the memory of em.

The way you talk nobody should talk about anything that has to with history or have an opinion about it.

Chill out, go find something else to git fired up about, like why you never learned how to braid frog hair.

 

ok
i know it all the governments doing that 3000 people died, it is a big cover up, bin laden had nothing to do with it, bush is a lying scumbag...well that is true. my calm question is. what is the point in questioning this? i trully believe that it is disrespectful, just my opinion. is there more to it than we have been told? probably. research the crash of flight 93 in the same aspects. you will see alot of theories on it as well. another question. couold the american public handle it if was discovered that a us fighter jet shot down that plane over pa.? i do not think so. i hate g.w. and all he stands for and all he does. but at that damned if you do, damned if you don't. i would rather hear the stories of heroism on flight 93 than learn that a us fighter shot it down. at the same time i would understand that if was not shot down how many more 1000's could have perished.

 

Sorry, Double Post.

 

Jedfxg Wrote:

Okay; I know it all the governments doing that 3000 people died, it is a big cover up, bin laden had nothing to do with it, bush is a lying scumbag...well that is true.

my calm question is. what is the point in questioning this? i trully believe that it is disrespectful, just my opinion.

The point of questioning is that there are many unanswered questions that merrit honest answers. Those who refuse to learn fom the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.

Persuit of the truth is not disrespectful to anyone, living or dead. If discovery of the truth is what will help keep a dark day like 9/11 from happening again, then the death of the thousands who perished will not have been in vain. Playing ostrich, burying our heads in the sand, and blindly accepting the Bush Administration's accounting for that day will never serve any useful purpose.

In looking back on the lies that have flowed fromm The Whitehouse, and the Constitutional encroachments that have been sold to The American People, all under the guise of trading our civil liberties and constitutional guarantees for the "security" that such trade-offs will supposedly bring truly is an abomination to those who died.

Jedfxg Wrote:

is there more to it than we have been told? probably. research the crash of flight 93 in the same aspects. you will see alot of theories on it as well.

another question.

couold the american public handle it if was discovered that a us fighter jet shot down that plane over pa.? i do not think so.

Do we REALLY want the government, or any U.S. Presidents, Republican or Democrat, deciding what "thruths" or what degree of truth we can handle?? This leaves us with a curious riddle; On one hand, are we to fault the government or administration for lying to us, while on the other hand, falult these same entities for telling us the truth, under the guise of "We, The People of of The United States of America can not handle the truth"??

If, in fact, The American People can not handle the truth, then how can we really complain about the economic powers behind the throne of government, the special interest groups, the corporations who have made billions of dollars off of a war that is being fought against the government and people of a nation who had no involvement with the planning or execution of 9/11??

The Constitution of The United States of America begins with the words "We, the People....."

If "We, the people of The United States of America, can not "handle the truth", if "We, the people" blindly accept what ANY U.S. Presidentor any political party tells us, or for that matter, the press, has told us, without questioning their integrity and truthfullness, then "We, the people" clearly do not deserve the freedoms and liberties that our Constituion is designed to provide, and we sew the seeds of our own demise. We will also reap a very bitter harvest from the seeds we have sewn.

The very purpose of our Constituion hwas been to provide for the rights and freedoms of our people, whils specificly enumerating and restrictin the powers of government. Thats why so many of our ammendments begin with the words "Congress shall make no law..." Our Constitution can only preserve and protect our nation if we, as a people of this nation, take a stand to defend it, and all that it stands for.


Jedfxg Wrote:

i hate g.w. and all he stands for and all he does. but at that damned if you do, damned if you don't. i would rather hear the stories of heroism on flight 93 than learn that a us fighter shot it down. [b]at the same time i would understand that if was not shot down how many more 1000's could have perished.

Since you "would understand" if the military shot down an unarmed civillian passenger jet liner in the name of possibly protecting the lives of thousands of others, then try to understand that digging for the truth, and refusing to put on our set of government issued horseblinders may help prevent a repeat of the tragic events of 9/11.

 

ok,nevermind. no argument here. go ahead and beat your dead horse. or whatever you prefer to beat.

 

Useless, there are two lines of reasoning toward finding the truth. One is legit and worthy of pursuing, while the other is crackpot internet junk and utterly disrespecting of those that died.

#1. Finding out the truth of a cover-up in how much did we know and could we have prevented the attack? Were there people involved that remained silent in order for the attack to actually take place? You could even go so far as to ask were there people that actually wanted this to happen for political gain?

I think all these questions are legitimately asked and should be pursued in one form or another until the truth, if any, is revealed.

Or...

#2. Claiming that the planes were remote-controlled, that they weren't passenger jets, that the buildings were rigged to explode when the attack took place, that our government took active steps to physically terminate the lives of thousands, etc. etc.

This conspiracy crap is just that - crap. There is not a shred of evidence or truth to these crackpot rumors and falsehoods and they go a long way to demeaning the lives and death of those involved in 9-11 by claiming they were nothing more than cannon fodder, expendable at the whims of a few government murderers. :x

I'm not particularly enamored with our government and the direction of it, either. But we're not a Stalinesque dictatorships where people are slaughtered for no reason. Let the dead rest in peace and for those that are wanting the truth, ask the right questions and keep the fiction out of it. :x

 

Hey, Batman!!

For the most part, I agree with you about debunking myths, asking the right questions and demanding truthfull answers.

On one hand, we have The Bush Administration who has demonstrated no compunction about lying. and the blind minions who will follow him, no matter how misguided the path may be.

On the other hand, we have the conspiracy nits who have done just about everything wxcept finding a way to introduce Elvis or space aliens into their conspiracies. ...well, at least not yet!! IMHO, both extremes are to varying degrees, aboninations to those who perished.

Personally, I believe that the truth rests somewhere in between, the extremes, and I believe that taking an objective look at all of the evidences without predjdice or passion, digging for the truth, and demanding truthfull answers, is not being disrespectful to those whose lives were so wrongly taken.

I realize that the extremist conspiracy whacko's may irritate the sensitivities of others; yet, the truth should be able to withstand their scrutiny; in doing so, truthful, logical, scientific evidences should put mindless blatherings to rest.

At the same time, if we take the position that asking legitimate questions is disrespectful, then who will be the judge of what questions may be asked, and which questions will not be allowed or tollerated?? Do we REALLY want the powerfull few making those decisions?? If so, then what is to stop them from exercising those powers to silence those who dare to disagree, or exercise their rights to assemble and protest??

Oh, BTW:

If you dare to disagree with me, then obviously you are a
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who ought to be shot dead, then banned !! :evil: :twisted:

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I think I finally got it.

9/11 was an elaborate ruse to get us to invade Afghanistan. Which in reality was just a smoke screen to get us to invade Iraq. All the while the actual target is Iran. :shock:

Man, that 'ol George Bush and his "strategery", he sure is pretty swift for a dimwit :roll:

 

9/11 conspiracy theories are like "intelligent design".

Just because you don't understand, doesn't make your reality the truth.

 

Scoe,

It is abundantly clear that we have not been told the truth by The Bush Administration. It REALLLLY isn't hard to figure that out!!

It's so simple, even a CAVEMAN coul..........Oh, NEVER MIND!! :P