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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
So we should take the criminals from Cuba...Mexico or anywhere else?
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No, however we should also not be labeling ever person who is coming across the border on business a "criminal" as you are doing. All people coming across the border are not Mexicans, nor are they all criminals and or even potential criminals no matter how you'd like that to be the case!
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
And hate to tell you but there are many Americans of Hispanic origin.
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Really? Gosh thanks for the tip...
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
And I NEVER NEVER claimed my stepdad or all legal Mexican citizens are criminals so quit lying!
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BUT, the rhetoric you are using makes ALL "Mexican looking" people suspect and automatically either illegal aliens and criminals. I hope your old stepdad enjoys all the new attention from your type of "good american". Whats the difference in your dad being stopped every day for "his papers" and the stopping of any other "Mexican looking" person as your rhetoric implies?
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
And as far as American criminals vs Mexican criminals were did you get your statistics from? There are major crime problems down in Mexico. All one has to do is go in and look at their news or even the presidents speech located on the Mexican Embassy website.
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If EVERY illegal alien committed a crime, the statistics based on the numbers of home grown criminals would still be less. It's based on population, not national origin. Most of these illegals aliens are hark working, honest people... just like MOST Americans are.
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
I mean at this point in America we don't have severed heads being thrown on the steps of our police stations yet!
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You are being completely selective again. The history of this country is FULL of violence and crime. There was a time that the criminals and crooks were seen as heroes here. We are again rewarding bad behavior and the American public laps it up like starving animals.
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
But I am willing to look at your actual factual material regarding this matter!
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No, you're willing to accept anything that goes along with your view that America should return to the failed and idiotic policy of pretending to be isolationists again.
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
Gee tell us how you really feel about Americans!
Spoiled American? What do you mean the one who has more toys than you? The one who is willing to work and pay it off!
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HAS? or HAS FINANCED? Most of these American I refer too do not OWN most of these toys that they insist that they "need". Living withing their means in NO LONGER an American trait as it was after the depression. I wish that people would because it would be able to set realistic payscales where our labor could possibly BE competative with the world.
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
But of course your mad so let's take his job away or yank the carpet out from him.
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Your raving again....
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
You sound like the kid who took his baseball bat and went home just because someone else did better than you! Talk about spoiled!
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Did better? I get irritated when I see all the $50,000 a year "millionaire" in this country flaunt their financed lives in front of people in some sort of credit competition. They then of course have nothing in the bank and if ANY type of life event happens, we end up picking up the tabs in the way of the bankruptcy courts.
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
And you are right we have no real manufacturing base left in our country anymore. With the low rate pay just who do you think will be left to buy all of those products and pay taxes or give billions to other countries?
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Trying to insert more issues? If we would have kept the low rates of pay and the credit companies would have not financed these dummies into NEEDING to make more than they earn, we would as a country been MUCH better off and all the products and services would be MUCH cheaper!
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
Nothing has changed in LA gang wars since the beginning of the gangs.. who cares? So you prefer only American gangs terrorizing people? Are you upset that roving gangs of Americans doing illegal things are being killed by other people doing illegal things? The irony is so think you could cut it with a knife!
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
Another silly statement from you! Sure we want all the worlds gangs terrorizing us in the United States not just the American gangs :roll: :roll:
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What's the difference? Are you saying that an American gang committing crimes and mayhem is any different than a foreign gang committing the same crimes? Or is your position that it is just unfair to American gangs?
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
No, I am not missing your point. The problems we have in our country we need to deal with we don't need other countries problems or criminals. And I don't think the MS 13 gang from Honduras are the type of people we want here!
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You completely missed the point and asserted that it had to do with drug smuggling... it didn't.
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
So some animal like Molosovich should never have faced the international courts? There really is only one reason that we remain in the UN and are the least interested in the world courts.. VETO power.. that's it!
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
And I wonder how many people around the world feel the same way about our leaders! Furthermore if we had stopped funding the UN years ago it would not have been around this long!
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Plenty! And in some of the cases they have that right to think that some of the things some American are doing should be answered in another forum than this country's courts. Just because they want it, doesn't mean that they are wrong. The UN is a failure, but it's now apparent that we have to be there if anything for the VETO power to protect not only our own interests, but the interests of many of our less powerful allies.
