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Old 04-03-2007, 02:43 PM
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golfhobo wrote:

Fair enough. (although, I'm sure I saw the word YOU in there.)
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You saw wrong. It was never about the poster, until you made it about him.
Quoting the Rev, from his post that I referenced:

Nope. I back into spots. It's just the way I do things, and since I'm paying the note on this here truck, and not you, my way wins.

And what do you do when the driver ignores you?

Ask me to move all you want. Until you show a pink slip for the blacktop, I'm not budging.
Um.... nothing wrong with MY eyes! Maybe your memory is fading? :shock: :lol:
 
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:57 PM
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Hobo wrote:

BESIDES.... what made you think I was ONLY, or SPECIFICALLY, talking about YOU??
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Because I know you were.
Rev: Psychic! :roll:

ME:

HE (how do you know?) or SHE, didn't come here "claiming" to represent anything.
HIM:

The first line of their first post:

"I am an IdleAire site rep that currently lives and works in Oregon."
Me: Oh... I GET it!! Women can't be a site rep in Oregon! How could I have MISSED that??? :roll:

Guess I need more "comprehension" training, cuz I definitely missed the "gender specific" wording in that first line of "their" post! :roll:
 
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Me: BTW, when you quote someone's statement, and respond TO IT, as opposed to "referencing" the information and opining ON IT.... I believe that could be considered "making it personal."

REV: :?:
Sorry!!..... Over your head??

Your Honor.... I withdraw the question! :roll:
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Kenandan
Some do, yes. But some do not. We ask that you pull out and turn around so that others do not copy you.
Sorry, bub, no can do.

It's not that hard, Rev.... maybe, if you practice, practice, practice.

It is just the way we do things, we feel it is easy to have everyone face one way, instead of having to deal with this issue on a one to one basis.
Nope. I back into spots. It's just the way I do things, and since I'm paying the note on this here truck, and not you, my way wins.

Certainly does.... anywhere BUT in a parking spot that THEY are paying the lease on.

It's just safer for you drivers. I am not doubting your skills as a driver, I personally make a mess of things in one of those myself, but its just the rules we set down, as we feel it is the safest means of parking. Remember, we are willing to help you pull out.
Rev.Vassago's rules state that pulling into a parking space is stupid and dangerous. It's just the rules that I've set down, and I feel that I know what the safest means of parking the vehicle I've spent 6 figures on is.

In the last month, I've seen 3 parking lot wrecks. All three had the NOSE of the tractor ripped off. Shame, too. They USED to be some pretty trucks! I bet they wish THEY had nosed in. :shock:

If you are in a standard spot we are not allowed to knock on your door if your in your sleeper or you have your windows covered.
But if I'm sitting in my driver's seat with my headset on talking to my wife, then it's okay. :roll:

Never seemed to stop the guy hawking the gold jewelry or DVD's.

The only exception I know of is if you are in the way of letting people park in our spots, or the members are not able to pull out.
I thought your "rule" was that you had to back out..... :? :?

There was a case yesterday where 4 drivers parked behind a few of the trucks in our spots to close to allow them to get out. The trucks were about 30 feet or so away.
Wouldn't have been a problem if they weren't backing out.

Can't agree with this. With parking spots wider than standard, a simple early jack of the steers will get the trailer going perpendicular in less distance than you can pull the tractor out and turn. Remember, the pivot point is the trailer tandems. If they are "buried" in the back of the spot, you have to get way out there before you can start your turn. I can back a trailer out in less space than I can pull out.... even a standard width spot.

That is the only time on non-idleaire spots we are allowed to knock on your door, while you are asleep.
And what do you do when the driver ignores you?

I hear they can NUKE ya!! :lol:

In IdleAire spots, if the spots are full and someone wants to use the services that you are not using, we can knock on your door and ask you to move to another spot.
Ask me to move all you want. Until you show a pink slip for the blacktop, I'm not budging.

Will a copy of the lease agreement they have with the property owner suffice?? :roll:

And yes - I'm being an azzhole about this.

Now, THIS I can agree with! :lol: :lol:
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:37 AM
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Jeez - here we go again. Let me set aside a half hour to fix your post response, since you forgot how to do BBcode.

Originally Posted by golfhobo
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Kenandan
Some do, yes. But some do not. We ask that you pull out and turn around so that others do not copy you.
Sorry, bub, no can do.
It's not that hard, Rev.... maybe, if you practice, practice, practice.
It isn't that I can't do it. It's that I choose not to do it.

It is just the way we do things, we feel it is easy to have everyone face one way, instead of having to deal with this issue on a one to one basis.
Nope. I back into spots. It's just the way I do things, and since I'm paying the note on this here truck, and not you, my way wins.
Certainly does.... anywhere BUT in a parking spot that THEY are paying the lease on.
They don't own the parking spot.

It's just safer for you drivers. I am not doubting your skills as a driver, I personally make a mess of things in one of those myself, but its just the rules we set down, as we feel it is the safest means of parking. Remember, we are willing to help you pull out.
Rev.Vassago's rules state that pulling into a parking space is stupid and dangerous. It's just the rules that I've set down, and I feel that I know what the safest means of parking the vehicle I've spent 6 figures on is.
In the last month, I've seen 3 parking lot wrecks. All three had the NOSE of the tractor ripped off. Shame, too. They USED to be some pretty trucks! I bet they wish THEY had nosed in. :shock:
Your point? It's no different than the guy who puts his drive tires into the side of my truck when he turns too sharp trying to back out of a spot.

If you are in a standard spot we are not allowed to knock on your door if your in your sleeper or you have your windows covered.
But if I'm sitting in my driver's seat with my headset on talking to my wife, then it's okay. :roll:
Never seemed to stop the guy hawking the gold jewelry or DVD's.
Again - your point? The guy peddling crap isn't supposed to be there. The truckstops give IdleAire permission to be there, but I doubt that permission extends to harassing drivers who are parked in non-idle aire spots - especially when they are busy conducting business on the phone.

The only exception I know of is if you are in the way of letting people park in our spots, or the members are not able to pull out.
I thought your "rule" was that you had to back out..... :? :?
There was a case yesterday where 4 drivers parked behind a few of the trucks in our spots to close to allow them to get out. The trucks were about 30 feet or so away.
Wouldn't have been a problem if they weren't backing out.
Can't agree with this. With parking spots wider than standard, a simple early jack of the steers will get the trailer going perpendicular in less distance than you can pull the tractor out and turn. Remember, the pivot point is the trailer tandems. If they are "buried" in the back of the spot, you have to get way out there before you can start your turn. I can back a trailer out in less space than I can pull out.... even a standard width spot.
That goes in the face of about 80 years of truck stop designing. Wow - you should sell that innovative idea that nobody has ever thought of before! :roll:

In IdleAire spots, if the spots are full and someone wants to use the services that you are not using, we can knock on your door and ask you to move to another spot.
Ask me to move all you want. Until you show a pink slip for the blacktop, I'm not budging.
Will a copy of the lease agreement they have with the property owner suffice?? :roll:
Sure - I'd love to have them produce that one, especially when they admit they don't own the parking spots, just the service.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:55 AM
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It isn't that I can't do it. It's that I choose not to do it.
Same applies to my using BBCode. And, I would have thought the humor in my answer would have been apparent. :roll:


They don't own the parking spot.
Neither I, nor Kenandan, ever said they did. But, you DO understand the concept of "leasing," don't you?


Your point? It's no different than the guy who puts his drive tires into the side of my truck when he turns too sharp trying to back out of a spot.
Actually, it IS. First, I'm not sure that is possible without him losing his mirror first... on the side of your trailer. Second, most of us don't own the trailer, so a scratch there isn't a debilitating accident. Losing a headlight and fender IS. Third, a guy cutting a corner too sharp is gonna GET worse than he GIVES if he hits the back corner of your trailer - it's NOT fiberglass. My POINT was, that I've seen the damage that can happen to the CAB of a truck when backed into a spot. It seems much more of a problem than someone tearing up his OWN truck on the back corner of my metal trailer. And I was just surprised that, with your experience, you thought exposing your nose to the passing traffic was the "safest" thing to do.


The truckstops give IdleAire permission to be there, but I doubt that permission extends to harassing drivers who are parked in non-idle aire spots - especially when they are busy conducting business on the phone.
I'm sure you are right. And Kenandan said as much. I fail to see the difficulty in just "waving off" the salesperson, if you're on the phone, the way you would wave off a peddlar. If one more "gnat" in the air constitutes harrassment for you, perhaps the pickle parks would be a better location for shutting down.


That goes in the face of about 80 years of truck stop designing. Wow - you should sell that innovative idea that nobody has ever thought of before!
First, I've seen alot of poorly designed truckstops! I was just saying that backing out is neither that difficult, nor that dangerous. Especially, if they would, in fact, assist. (SOME of us drivers have no problem with it.) It sounded to me as if the "offending drivers" that were asked to move, were not legally parked in a space opposite the IdleAire spots.


Sure - I'd love to have them produce that one, especially when they admit they don't own the parking spots, just the service.
I know you're stubborn, Rev. But, I don't think you're that thickheaded! Kenandan SAID they leased the spots - not owned them. If so.... I doubt they would have much problem showing you their authority to control parking in those LEASED spots. The company (T/S) who DOES own the pavement, has leased those spots to IdleAire. I don't like it much more than YOU do, but... pink slip or not, you cannot "trespass."
 
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I dont care how they sell it or word it, for those of us that drive for companies that dont pay for this turd of a service, they have made driving life slightly more difficult for the most part. Get into a truck stop late needing a shutdown, cant park there because the only available spaces are taken up by cones....not trucks.....cones. Taking up room where there could be extra spaces. shifting all of the free parking to the back dark alleys of a lot of stops. Parking is at a premium as is and there are enough vultures out there trying to squeeze nickles out of truck drivers without being charged to sleep when there are no other places to park and its to cold or hot to sleep without some climate control. Dont get me started on the required nosing into parking spaces, from day one of learning to drive these things you learn to avoid blind backing at all costs.......especialy in truck stop parking lots that are often confused as Daytona for 80,000 pound trucks. Long story short....It will be a few years probably before Idleaire disapears(hopefully they will)...just speed up the process and invest in APU's and encourage your company to do the same.
 
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I know you're stubborn, Rev. But, I don't think you're that thickheaded! Kenandan SAID they leased the spots - not owned them. If so.... I doubt they would have much problem showing you their authority to control parking in those LEASED spots. The company (T/S) who DOES own the pavement, has leased those spots to IdleAire. I don't like it much more than YOU do, but... pink slip or not, you cannot "trespass."[/quote]

I wonder who the truck stops get more money from...Idleaire or the hundreds and hundreds of truckers in and out of their stores buying hundreds of dolars in fuel at a shot, over priced food, coffee, electronics, drinks.....Hmm, I wonder who pays them more......Its ashamed that doesnt seem to matter.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jagerbomber
I know you're stubborn, Rev. But, I don't think you're that thickheaded! Kenandan SAID they leased the spots - not owned them. If so.... I doubt they would have much problem showing you their authority to control parking in those LEASED spots. The company (T/S) who DOES own the pavement, has leased those spots to IdleAire. I don't like it much more than YOU do, but... pink slip or not, you cannot "trespass."
I wonder who the truck stops get more money from...Idleaire or the hundreds and hundreds of truckers in and out of their stores buying hundreds of dolars in fuel at a shot, over priced food, coffee, electronics, drinks.....Hmm, I wonder who pays them more......Its ashamed that doesnt seem to matter.[/quote]

Oh, I AGREE with you Jagerbomber, and have said as much in another post (on the thread I bumped). I don't KNOW how much money the T/S gets from IdleAire, or vice versa. But, it MUST be enough to balance out a bunch of pissed off drivers! :lol:

Kenandan wanted experiences and suggestions. I suggest they build EXTRA parking lot spaces for IdleAire... at the BACK OF THE LOT! You want a "quiet zone?" then build AWAY from the constant circling of trucks looking for a spot! (The BACK row is ALLREADY the "quiet zone" for those who shut off their engines and don't want to be next to an "idler.") :roll:

I think the BIGGEST gripe here, is the loss of parking spots NEAR the building! I've actually noticed, lately, that T/S's are paving MORE land to replace these spots NEAR THE BACK of the lot! This just WILL NOT appease drivers, and encourage business!

I think the survivability of IdleAire is strongly linked to their "acceptance" by non using drivers! I think it is CLEAR that, if they want to be accepted, they should COMPROMISE on the location of their spots and COMPENSATE by paving land for replacement slots! I've seen SOME T/S's where they have done JUST that!
 
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Here is a situation i just thought about and would like and answer to...As we all know there are also scummy truck stops that think they have to charge us to park...thats a whole different thing to bitch about but....Say you take a truckstop like the T/A in jessup maryland...they are one of the scummy scummies that wants to charge people after 2-3 hours....they have idleair. Is the parking fee waived if you use Idleaire or do you just get double charged for parking....and say you roll in late and the only spaces left are idleaire and you park in one because you have to, but 4-5 hours later Idleaire tries to run you out so someone can use the idleaire but there are no regular spaces available....is Idleaire going to pay for your way out of the parking lot? Because at that point your free 2 hours would be up. Or could they even run you out of a space at a lot that you have to pay to be in even if it is in an Idleaire spot? Seems to me it wouldnt be very fair that they could run you out of a spot that you were paying for anyway even if you were not using their services.....Any insight on things like this?
 

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