I do not believe in Pre-destiny, fate, Karma, luck - good or bad, angels - good or bad, or anything other description that people use to get out of the responsibilities of their actions, or use to "explain" the sad state of affairs they are in for some reason or other.

No one takes care of me, sees over me, or is making sure I am OK or not.

That is my job.

And I do not give my job to others to make sure it gets done.

And I take that job very seriously.

 

Rocky, I agree with you.
I think what a person believes is his own business, and a personal part of life, that can be shared or not shared...which ever works for you. And whatever a man believes...he should be intitled to.
If more people held their convictions as...personal feelings...there may be less killing over beliefs.
A man should be willing and able to stand up for himself and grab the bull by the horns. Seems if more people accepted responsibility for themselves, I can't imagine how much more healthy society would be.?

 

I do believe in the Karma issue... There is no way to get away with anything. Until you are on the right path... you will suffer. There is only one person who can control your destiny... that is the person who looks you in the eye when you shave.

 

The suffering is self inflicted.

If you accept what you have done, if it is a "bad" thing, then the suffering usually ends.

In other words, you control the suffering.

 

WOW, I realy did not expect this Topic to take off this fast!


My input on predestination is a little diffrent than the majority.
I believe when God spoke of predestination, that it was not on a personal level, but a national level.

Israel, The Jews are predestined to be Gods children, we as Gentiles, through Christ are presdestined to become the seed of Abraham through the Mercies of Christ.

But in that predestination we have a choice, to either believe or not.
Somebody said somthing about Pharo "I cannot spell this morning". That God had hardened his heart. I know God did this to show His glory, and I also know that God gave Pharo many of choices and chances, to let his people go.
My question is, if God would not have hardened pharo's heart, would pharo have let the Jews go? If Yes, this in my opinion would have, not interfered with personal freedom of choice, why? because the choice we have been given is believe or not believe. To Choose between truth and lie, a curse and a blessing.
Does God know all, yes, this is where it gets confusing.
Another example: Cyrus, in Isaiah is proclamed to be one of Gods instrimunts to release the Jews, this befor Cyrus was even born, but Cyrus being predestined to do these things, I do not think this had any bearing on his choice between believing or not. "Did That make Sense?"

Forgive me my mind is everywhere this morning, I cannot seem to pull myself together this morning, matter of fact it has been about a month that I have been in this rut.

Please keep things going for me, I think I will take a break from posting for a while, I am not myself and I don't think I am making to much sense anymore compared to my earlier postings.
I am going to take a break for a while, so keep it going until I can get my bearings.

Thanks Y'all

Slimland.

 

Slimland....
maybe your body is trying to tell you it's time to take it out to the Bar. It's not so much your words, but your body language is cryin' out for a long dragged out drunk. Go loosen up...man.

Hey...if not for yourself...do it for me. I can't go celebrate St.Pattie's and slug my Irish buddies till I get a smile outta them. :lol:

 

I guess this means God has no power and is hoping things will work out?

 

Not at all. It just means that it is our choice and the outcome of our choice is our responsibility. God's plan will work out regardless.

 

Maybe thats what it is, :lol:

Man, I am sorry guys, I don't know what the Hell is wrong with me. I seem so indisisive and questoning my every thought, I think I have got to much stress going on right now. and it is effecting my writing, the only thing I seem to be capable of besides being a jerk, is playing the guitar. When I am doing that things seem to slip away, but as soon as I put it down, the feeling comes back.

I know this thread is not the place to put this, maybe I need to make a crybaby thread. This is so frustrating, this is not me. I take pressure pretty well, but this is getting to me.

Sometimes I feel as if my faith is failing, but that cannot be it, cause I know that I am a reciever of the one that gives, and He is always faithful.
I just wish He would lighten the load. Maybe I just need to bury my head into the Word, but I don't realy know what good it would do. You see. It is like I was going to buy a book on positive thinking, but then I thought, what the Hell good would it do.

I have argued, yelled, submitted, even ignored and everything possible, to get God to give me some relief, NONE. I know He is there, I can feel Him and I stand on His Word, but no relief. I know in the end it will work out for the better, but how much more can a man take?

Look, I have lost a child back in 1997, I have been married to Satan and still have to deal with her, and this puts strain on anything I do, My kids that I just recieved costody on, have mental issues because of this woman and her famly. It affects Me and My wife and her 2 kids, its hard, on top of this I have been on workmans comp, for 2 years, almost lost my home 4 times, had to file bankruptcy, my vans transmission went out, this is our only vehicle, and knowing I will get released soon from my injury, the thought of trying to find a job after 2 years, is not very comforting, it is not the work it is the lack of. What I mean by that is, do you know how hard it is to find a job, after you havn't worked for 2 years. I guess I will have to go back into the resturant managment, which I lothe. I cannot go back on the road, my kids need me here. this freeking sucks. oh, and not to mention having to be on pain medication the rest of my life.

I know :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Sorry
It just sucks!!! And I cant seem to overcome it, Not to mention my son, has turned out to be just like his mother, Satans little spawn. And knowing what I am going to have to do with him, just tears me up. He is the most spoiled, lying, manipulating, child I have ever seen. So I am thinking of putting him in boys ranch, just so he would know what real life is, and maybe they can teach him something that could change him. It is that or I will have to move so he won't have so much contact with his mother and her demonic famly. That think the world revolves around them, and there the only one's that have ever been in Vietnam. They have brain washed this child into a world of D&D, and manipulation of the most evilest kind.
I know it will take a long time to get 11 years of hell out of this child, and this is not including the abuse he and his sister have been through. Luckly, I think I got her befor she came about her own personality, but the damage is still there. She just thinks better than he does.

Sorry again.

 

Are you assuming that God cares?

I find it interesting that some tend to think God has emotions like we do.