A theory is something that is open to be proved, or disproved. And if it is disproved, then you have to admit that you where wrong.

That is why you cannot teach Creation as a Science. If you believe in God and creation, no matter what evidence I show you to the contrary you will not buy into it. That is because you Believe in God and Creation.

An idea is something that you can pull out of thin air no matter whether it is based on science or a belief system.

You are "borrowing" a word that cannot be used as it sits outside of the context of your argument.

You believe in God and Creation, and want to use the word theory as it applies to Darwins "theory" of evolution.

I believe in God and Creation and accept that there is enough scientific evidence to see that Darwins "theory" is actually factual. A better way to say it now would be to say "Darwins Fact of Evolution"

It is as much a fact to me as knowing that the Andromeda Galaxy is 2.5 million light years from Earth. I do not need to actually measure the distance by going there to know that. It is a fact and can be proved by using science.

If you drop something where there is gravity it falls. A fact of science.

Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away. A fact of science.

Darwin's fact of evolution. A fact of science.

God created the universe and all that is in it. A belief.

 

Slimland

Does it really matter whether it's an opinion, theory, or idea? We advertise to the world that we have religious freedom. Any one of us is free to believe as we choose.

So... Why are you "shoving" your beliefs down "our" throats?????

Are you trying to convince us or YOURSELF?????

Do you remember the part that says: "He who exalts himself shall be humbled, and he who humbles himself shall be exalted"????

Why do you pick out the parts that appeal to you, and leave out the parts that don't???

 

Our Atomic Clock is set by the way the star's move, it has an error factor of less than 3 seconds per millinium, The earth is posistioned at an exact 23 degree angle, this is no mistake, Gravity no mistake, Adromeda 2.5 million light years, no mistake. The stars and heavens are the workmanship of God, and testify of Him. They are shouting there is a God.

Darwinism, in its purest form, even by His quote's proclaim a God! Sciense proves a God. The bible tells us Creation itself will help us understand. If there is a design, There is a designer, if there is a painting a painter, if there is a mirical there is a God.

Thanks for the diffrence in Idea, and Theory! :wink:

 

I thought this was a discussion on the Big Bang Theory, so I was just stating how I think it happend. I am not pushing my belief on anyone.
What parts did I pick I believe I have answerd everything that was discussed in my Idea, theory, belief, whatever you want to call it.
So the true question would be, am I trying to convince you? No, it was a discussion that is all. Take it how you want it.

 

I did answer the question posed, you just refuse it as the answer, that is fine I do not expect you to agree, it is my belief, and opinion.
I use the stories to illistrate, my idea, or belief, whatever you want to call it.

I am not saying Y'all are wrong, That is Not the Issue, The Issue was the big bang, I just gave my side, and it coresponds and makes sense, at least to me it does.

So I will step out of this conversation, since I have Offended some, with my Idea.

 

So, there was a huge mass of.... something here. Then, something went BANG and bits and pieces flew all over. How did they get rolled up into balls, instead of a lot of pieces like the astroid belt? Hammering into each other... Like "swedged"?

 

This is nonsensical.

You might as well say that purple proves 12 which proves couch.

The scientific definition of Proof is

The validation of a proposition by application of specified rules, as of induction or deduction, to assumptions, axioms, and sequentially derived conclusions.

And the direction of this thread is science, right?

In the end, if you need proof to believe in your God, I challenge the steadfastness of your belief in the first place.

If you could prove God to me, then I think that the proof itself would invalidate HIM in my eyes.

In that sense, it is wonderful that GOD is not provable. As then I am able to define the difference in myself between science and GOD.

 

Gravity.

On the moon, you can jump up in "air" 20 feet, on earth, 3 feet, on Jupiter you could not get off of the ground.

The larger the body, the greater the gravity. Even a large body of loose rocks, has its own gravity.

The larger the body, the more it falls in on itself. Hence, if you have a large enough body of anything, it will compress. That is what made stars and planets and moons. Or so the THEORY says, anyway. :wink:

 

Okay... But, now, where do you, as a human, fit into the BIG BANG theory???? Planets, mass, and matter.... ROCKS!!!

 

Rocks stick together, pressure creates volcanoes, volcanoes create heat, Heat creates water and atmosphere, Water and oxygen create slime, slime turns to fish, fish turn to mammals, mammals evolve to humans.

Of course, many men are slime, so they jumped two stages of evolution.

That is how Man evolved.

We all know that woman came from sugar, spice and everything nice.

( I am sucking up here, in case you did not notice)