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Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 (Post 445586)

With some it is. I know of some families where the husband refuses to do anything with the kids and leaves it all up to the mother of them and then he wonders why she is always tired.

Men like that give other men a bad name. But all men are not like that.

I think it gets a bit confusing with "caring for" the kids. The children are both parent's responsibility to nurture and provide and teach values. But from the get go the scales are unbalanced (i.e. dads can't breast feed).

As far as dishes, vacuuming, and laundry lets add the other side, oil changing, roof repair, and lawn mowing. I don't see any of it as romantic :hellno:

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Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 (Post 445551)

Why is all the Nice guys are single I will give you a reason. I was considered a NICE guy in HS and the girls n HS and Colledge are NOT looking for the so called NICE guy they want the Party Animals. Next thing they know they are Pregnant that happened to my wife before I met her and she and her EX got married because of that. Well he ended up breaking my stepsons arm at 4 months ecause hewas crying because he was hungry and had a dirty diaper what 4 month old WOULD NOT CRY with those 2 problems. I met her at irst she was like HE CAN NOT BE REAL then it hit her I WAS AS NICE AS I WAS. Now she is like I hit the Jackpot won the lottery and struck gold all at the same time. Name one other husband that will cook clean do the Dishes laundry and take care of the kids without complaints 24/7 and all he asks for in return is some cuddles every now and then. That and I get to keep my 150 gallon fish tank.

Unfortunately, some women don't know what they want....

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Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 (Post 445586)

With some it is. I know of some families where the husband refuses to do anything with the kids and leaves it all up to the mother of them and then he wonders why she is always tired. Guys if your idea of romanceis lift your FEET when she is a Vacuming CALLED you need a wake up call. For me the most important people in my life go in this order my wife and kids FIRST then my other family then my friends.

Some guys do stuff...not the stuff that needs to be done, just what they decide they want to do. In general, those guys do not make life easier, they get in the way, then gripe when you haven't gotten anything done. My all-time favorites quote from my soon-to-be-ex who comes up on weekends: "I don't how how you can stand to live like this" - well, maybe I was spending my little bit of spare time mowing and pulling the weeds in the alley so we don't get a ticket instead of fixing the rod that fell down in my closet (which I asked him to do the last three times he was here). So, instead of helping me by fixing the rod...he is just ovewrwhelmed that I "live like that". It's okay...

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 445599)

Men like that give other men a bad name. But all men are not like that.

I asked a friend of mine to help me fix that rod in the closet and he fixed it. I only have so much time to do things with 4 kids and a job. It is true...all men are not like that. There are some really great guys out there...

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Originally Posted by dobry4u (Post 445602)

You are cold and hard....teeheehee...depends on what you are wearing while you wash dishes...LOLOLO :moon:

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Originally Posted by BlooMoose (Post 445604)

You are cold and hard....teeheehee...depends on what you are wearing while you wash dishes...LOLOLO :moon:

Hmm... go for the "bigger picture"....

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depends on what you are wearing while you

mow the lawn :)

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Originally Posted by BlooMoose (Post 445603)

And I'm sure he didn't expect anything in return for it either. Even occasional cuddles. That's the whole "giving as much or more than you take" thing. It has less to do with romance, and more to do with respect. By giving as much as you take, you are giving respect to the person in your life that is important to you. If you don't respect the person, then it's pretty darn hard to feel romantic toward them.

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 445609)

+1 well said, Rev. Well said :thumbsup:

It is totally about respect.

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Originally Posted by BlooMoose (Post 445604)

depends on what you are wearing while you wash dishes...LOLOLO :moon:

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Originally Posted by dobry4u (Post 445606)

.... mow the lawn :)

I know, darn it...I could probably get a lot more help that way...but there is a cop that lives down the street...:smokin:

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Do you guys think your parents relationships come into play here? We learn by example. Any relationship is going to get tested at some point. I think we either try to get along or try to break up. Kinda like deciding to be happy or sad. It is a choice. Some relationships just werent right but some that fail could have been saved with a different mindset. I guess I dont relate to romance per se. My wife and I just get along and we like each other. We try not to hurt each other. We always know we want to be together and we tell each other that. Just talking out loud here Reb, not sure how to answer your question. I'm not much help around the house. I do all the guy stuff and I'm responsible but not much on cooking, cleaning, laundry so I dont think thats the answer.