Fuller 10 Speed Tranny...
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All of a sudden when going down the highway I lost all gears except 4th and 9th. The tranny makes some funny noises. When stopped I tried all other gears... none work not even reverse. I've never had any problems with the tranny until now. The screen and filter were not changed recently. Another driver indicated that the tranny is not shot, he said it may be something with gears out of sink, something minor. Would anyone have any advise on this problem?
Thanks Neckster
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Originally Posted by Neckster
All of a sudden when going down the highway I lost all gears except 4th and 9th. The tranny makes some funny noises. When stopped I tried all other gears... none work not even reverse. I've never had any problems with the tranny until now. The screen and filter were not changed recently. Another driver indicated that the tranny is not shot, he said it may be something with gears out of sink, something minor. Would anyone have any advise on this problem?
Thanks Neckster
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4th & 9th are direct drive in the front section- the sliding clutch gear engages the mainshaft directly into the input shaft for 4th & 9th, taking the countershafts out of the equation.
Therefore, I'm thinking that since the direct drive gears are working and none of the gears requiring the countershaft are operational, something has happened internally, possibly the main drive gear which drives the countershafts has failed, or the countershaft bearings have failed & allowed the countershafts to push away from the main drive gear. Either of these possibilities would certainly account for a lot of "funny noises", and loss of all speeds except 4th & 9th. Wish I had a better prognosis, but in my opinion something serious has happened in there.
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Originally Posted by Splitshifter
4th & 9th are direct drive in the front section- the sliding clutch gear engages the mainshaft directly into the input shaft for 4th & 9th, taking the countershafts out of the equation.
Therefore, I'm thinking that since the direct drive gears are working and none of the gears requiring the countershaft are operational, something has happened internally, possibly the main drive gear which drives the countershafts has failed, or the countershaft bearings have failed & allowed the countershafts to push away from the main drive gear. Either of these possibilities would certainly account for a lot of "funny noises", and loss of all speeds except 4th & 9th. Wish I had a better prognosis, but in my opinion something serious has happened in there. Drop the drain plug and check for shrapnel, that'll let you pull it and take off the cover.
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I was advised by the shop that the tranny is shot. A quote for the trany job is $5500, his includes a remanuf. tranny with my old one as core and $2000 for labor. The tranny was quoted as $3300. they also said I should replace both yokes, u-joints, clutch, and carrier bearing. The complete job was uoted as $7133.00 with 25 hrs. labor at $55.00 per hour.
The truck is a 96 Volvo w1a, cat c-12 with 1.275 million miles on the truck. The truck also needs several other repairs which could run into big dollars. My thought is that it's not worth the money to invest into this old truck. The motor is running strong. Any opinions? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Neckster
I was advised by the shop that the tranny is shot. A quote for the trany job is $5500, his includes a remanuf. tranny with my old one as core and $2000 for labor. The tranny was quoted as $3300. they also said I should replace both yokes, u-joints, clutch, and carrier bearing. The complete job was uoted as $7133.00 with 25 hrs. labor at $55.00 per hour.
The truck is a 96 Volvo w1a, cat c-12 with 1.275 million miles on the truck. The truck also needs several other repairs which could run into big dollars. My thought is that it's not worth the money to invest into this old truck. The motor is running strong. Any opinions? Thanks. give us examples of a couple of the other repairs needed. what is the general condition of the unit? volvo? ... '96? ... hmmmmm
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Originally Posted by Neckster
A quote for the trany job is $5500, his includes a remanuf. tranny with my old one as core and $2000 for labor. The tranny was quoted as $3300.
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Originally Posted by roadranger
Originally Posted by Neckster
A quote for the trany job is $5500, his includes a remanuf. tranny with my old one as core and $2000 for labor. The tranny was quoted as $3300.
good point, i didn't even notice the 25 HRS on that quote! at the ih dealer the tranny guys were; pulling, rebuilding, and installing 13 spds in 16 hours. cursed volvo probably has engine mounts on trans bell housing, add an hour maybe two, put new mounts if they're worn. the clutch would only add 15 mins to the job once the tranny's out. the output yoke is zero labour, as a matter of a fact, it has saved some time as opposed to trying to get the old one off of the tailshaft. the front u-joint is 1/2 out already... why are we replacing yokes?; splines, or loose cup bores? not a whole lot can go wrong with a yoke. with all of that, shouldn't they have recommended a new cross-shaft and release fork? they not gonna have to worry about losing time on that job ;0)
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That shop is trying to rip you off. I have personally removed and replaced a transmisson in 6 hours total time in a Volvo. The only repairs needed would be the clutch tranny of course and front U-joint. The rest is bill padding. Unless the driveshaft is cracked or twisted there is no reason to just replace it also the output yoke should be inculded on the reman tranny.
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