ok so now i am confused. would it be good for him to get into heavy duty mechanic? Would that really help him out in doing what he really wants to do? Whats the point of him going into something that he really doesnt want and thinking the whole time that it would help get him in a truck and then after a few thousand dollars, go and find out that he wasted his money, and is right back where he started.

I would really appreciate getting some honest opinions on this and not making up something to either make yourself sound better or whatever the reason is for you lieing to me about this. What if he did go and become a mechanic and not make as much money and not get into a truck at all? Then all your doing by telling us this is screwing him.

 

Let me see! Damage control!!! chances are. nomoremrbill. has maybe a few years under his belt. Me 10 years as a driver. 34 years of life in the industry. doesn't much matter. some how I doubt you will listen to any advice I have to offer. so I will leave you with this final thought. my 2 older brothers are master mechanics. Truth, It doesn't matter what advice you give your brother. all you can do is watch. he is going to do what he wants to do.. that's all I can tell you..

why didn't nomoremrbill respond to my message! simple.. He is a "Cyber stalker" and he knew i would report him. that would be why... so to the CAD mods. I would keep a very close eye on nomoremrbill.. he entered this thread seen i was in it helping some one. and decided to trash me. bill???? Do you see what i mean by you will do more damage then good?
when they spend $55k for a truck plus up to $8k for school. just to find out. that they can't get the truck leased any where. plus his brother can get a job in that side of the industry either.
I know exactly what i am talking about. I had a friend who thought the same thing. he nearly put his house up for a truck. he had no experience. so I got him a job where i was working then in 2005. he didn't make it 3 months.. and at the end I asked him. what would you have done. if you would have put your house up for a truck??? he had no clue... moral to the story. anybody can own one of these trucks. working it seems to be the trick. so many steering wheel jockies on the road..

to the "OP" get his mvr. criminal record,and work history. put yourself in the place of an employer that has a trucking company.. and ask your self this. would i hire him??? the anwser there should tell you what you need to know..

the time your brother did and the crime is still fresh... so nooooo!!! no one will hire him in the trucking industry. about 2 years from now things will be different. maybe then if your brother is still interested in being a driver. maybe then he can get a trucking job. until then.. he is going to have to do something for a living.. so if he goes to school for another interest. and get a job in that field. he might find that he likes it better.. the reason i suggest a heavy duty truck mechanic. is because you can get a job in nearly any industry with a degree like that.. working on just about any piece of equiptment in the world. and unlike the companies in the trucking industry. most ever employer send mechanics to school for addition training. and the mechanics don't pay for the classes..

really it's up to your brother on what he wants to do with his life.. all you really can do is watch.. the best of luck to the both of you...


truth, well all good at many different things. but we are great at one thing. those who figur it out. make the most in that career field.. so ask him. what is he truely passionate about. and truely loves doing. listen to how he talks about it.. that will help you decide what your brother is really great at... and what career field he should be in..

 

Cyberstalker? LMAO....

Only reason I didn't ask is he beat me to the question, so which is it? your an out of work guy struggling and living out of a truck with no job or your a mechanic and all that heart tugging story was BS?

I'm almost guess our NE friend is back............

 

MR.BILL ???? I shouldn't of come in this thread at all! from what I understand. you might have a month under the belt driving. and that is with a trainer.. your a newbie swift driver. The "OP" origional poster. is trying to figure out what the reall chances are for his brother in trucking! AS AN OWNER OPORATER!!! YOU how ever! are a NEWBIE DRIVER! FOR SWIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was wonder why you didn't have an opinion on what company might go under next! that's because you don't have one.. you don't have experience to have one... My God!!!

YOUR DAMAGE MR.BILL
ok so now i am confused. would it be good for him to get into heavy duty mechanic? Would that really help him out in doing what he really wants to do? Whats the point of him going into something that he really doesnt want and thinking the whole time that it would help get him in a truck and then after a few thousand dollars, go and find out that he wasted his money, and is right back where he started.

I would really appreciate getting some honest opinions on this and not making up something to either make yourself sound better or whatever the reason is for you lieing to me about this. What if he did go and become a mechanic and not make as much money and not get into a truck at all? Then all your doing by telling us this is screwing him.


read it very carefully mr.bill the above is your damage..

your dumm ast. is going to cost them aaaalllloooooootttt of money!!!! simply because your still impressed that you are driving the biggest thing on the road. and haven't ran anyone over yet!!! crist!!! Mr.Bill!!!!! you haven't even seen any snow. or a patch of ice on the road... you might have 10,000 miles total. put the computer up. and go make swift some money you moron.

and yes I got a job. i started monday. I have to ride a bicycle to work... which is 2 miles down the road from the truck i am living in.... so how is it i lied???? I didn't!!!! MISTER BILLLL!!!!!! You stuck your newbie rookie nose in where it didn't belong. A typical know nothing Swift driver wanna be...

When you cost these people 10's of thousands of dollars. because you are too stupid to keep your nose out of stuff you just do not understand... Then you can take the heat from them. when they have one of these great big trucks setting in there yard with a 1+ thousand dollar a month payment. and no where to lease or run it... why. because you had to make me look like something i'm not... Then maybe you Mr. BILL.... can help them figure out how to pay for it...

 

Ok first of all i dont think we need to be childish on here and going back and forth blaming people for different things. and second of all, what he said is not going to cost us thousands of dollars just because of what he said. I have been with my husband for six years now and from the beginning he was driving a truck. So i do know something about the way the trucking industry is. The only reason i am on here is to find out if there is any company that anyone knows of that would take my brother with the charge and having no experience and with the way this economy is, if he had a chance right now. My husband just started with JB and even though he has the experience but was off the road for 9 months he had problems finding a job that he was wanting, because some wanted to put him back in with a trainer and be OTR. All he was looking for was something to get him home every week and then eventually a local, since we have three kids and he doesnt want to be away anymore. Anway you guys going back and forth about this isnt doing any good. We kinda know what to do but just wanted OPINIONS from other drivers, i never said i would do exactly what you guys say to do.

 

Now I can agree with that!:rofl:

 

well he has called a few different companies and some said no not for another 5 years and he had one that said after he pays his fine (which has to be done in Sept.) then they would take him. I am pretty sure that it was Prime that told him this, but i cant remember. I will have to get back to you guys on that. It sounds like a lot of bs to me though. But, does anyone know anything about prime? Would it be a good company to work for?

Another thing he is wanting to know is, is there anyone that is still with the first company that they ever worked for and if so how long have you been with them? He is determined to stick with the first company he works for no matter what but i think once he gets out there and realizes that he could do better with another company he might just change his mind.

 

"tbogle".... I can see that you are serious and trying to help a family member, so I'll toss in my two cents...

First, if your brother has temper issues....he may wish to avoid this arena, seriously. If he ends up working for a company that does a lot of food warehouses.....his temper or rather restraint will be sorely tested. He has a record and that can interfere with many things, such as his ability to cross the border into Canada. Many companies have that as a requirement. Many companies also require a Hazmat endorsement, which he may be precluded from. Many companies also are not hiring currently. The economy is down very badly right now, and I hope I'm wrong...but it could well get worse before it improves.

Second, if he is not already in possession of a CDL-A and whatever necessary endorsements, then he is going to have a seriously hard time getting in the door. He already has a couple of impediments. Unfortunately he has the criminal record, and if he was "kicked out" of the Navy, he more than likely at a minimum has a Chapter 14 type of discharge or worse. Those are two extremely difficult impediments to overcome in a hiring market where he will be competing with 1000's of drivers with good safety records, tremendous experience, and stable work histories, as well as clean records.

What I would recommend, is that he consider refocusing his desires and move toward a field that has a demand in it. He does not have to "love" the work....his first and foremost concern is fulfilling the requirements of "Maslow's Hierarchy"...( Maslow's Hierarchy ).... One cannot live without food, etc.....

If he does not want to go to college and get a degree, then perhaps he should look at a skilled job....such as diesel mechanic, or something of that nature. If you live near an ocean...being a "marine diesel mechanic" or even a "boat mechanic" capable of repairing the myriad of systems on boats can provide a good living. If he is talented with his hands and can work with fiberglass and gelcoat, and can paint or varnish, or wants to do rigging work on sailboats....he can make a good living as well. To be honest with you....if I was a younger man, I would be doing something different myself. I'm at the point in life where I am looking to retire in a couple of years, and way too old to do the kind of work I like to do... I live on my boat, and keeping it up is enough....

Right now, in this present economy.... I think you might want to get him to "reassess" his goals....I know the company I work for has a hiring freeze, and its indefinite, and there are other companies out there that have frozen hiring as well, and even a few that are actually "downsizing" their fleets. I would have to expect that he would be looking at not being able to secure a seat until the economy recovers to the point where all drivers that have been displaced are back in the seat or left the market....

Its too bad he had problems in the Navy...otherwise I would suggest that he go back in. Its probably one of the only "sure-things" going right now....

Best of Luck to him!!

 

Tbogle,
I don't think you've said what your brother's 20 is, but he has a lot of things going against him besides a criminal record, kicked out of the Navy (big red flag), (and yes employers can find out the character of s discharge) and his age. many OTR companies don't hire if the potential driver's age is under 23. It sounds like he really needs to talk to a career counselor like in a state unemployment office. Can he still access VA education counselors? That may be a place to start. He should possibly think about a technical job in healthcare like a lab tech or equipment operator. He's too young to think is only best opportunity is as a driver. Previous poster made good point too. BOL

 

He is 21 and the reason he got kicked out of the Navy was because of the allegations against him. As i have posted before, he does not have a temper problem, the reason he got battery was because it was a plea deal. I do agree with all of you on him needing to just try and find something else. I have been trying to tell him this since before he got out of jail. But there is nothing i can do to change his mind, he is a big boy he can do what he wants. I am just trying to help him out. He wont listen to me about finding a different job so I figured I would just get on here and try to see if someone else knows something he could do that we dont know of. I think with the more companies that he calls and talks to, he is realizing that he dont really have a chance but he is still committed to this and trying his best to find something. I think pretty much what is going to happen is he is going to find out the hard way that he really doesnt have any chance right now but i just hope he realizing this before he spends the money on the training at a school.