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Old 12-31-2008, 04:23 AM
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Smile Hopper bottom / end dumps

which one has best freight base ?
Nationaly...

Which is higher revenue?

Reason I ask...

Got oppertunity at a local outfit that has the following

1 . 85 trucks
2. 50 hopper 40 enddumps 20 pneumatics 15 vans

Pay breakdown
(percentage pay)

25.5
26.0 (90days)
26.5 ( 180 days)
27.0 (1 year)

0.5 rasie each year after till
30.0 cap

Bonus
1.0 cpm for have hazmat end for all loaded miles hazmat or not...
2.0 cpm safety for all miles loaded or mt
( yes bonus is cpm not percentage)
I know that's weird

5.0 percent extra to pull a load out on
Saturday or Sunday or if your load delivers on one of those days
5.0 percent

On top of your normal pay scale

INS
90/10
vacation to start

I know I don't want pnuematics but wondering if I should go
1. Hopper
2. End dump

If it gets slow. I can pull any trailer they have put I have to pick a division to start

Also does this pay plan sound good I have never. Been on percentage so not sure

They also pay

$9.00 per hour after 2 for unload
$9.00 per hour after 2 for breakdown


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Old 12-31-2008, 04:40 AM
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$0.27 per mile after one year is low, even for hopper bottom work. Back when I did hopper bottoms (from 1997-2003), starting pay was at $0.27 per mile. A $0.30 per mile cap is also a bad thing. Miles can fluctuate greatly when it comes to hopper bottoms and end dumps, depending upon the time of year.

Their "$9.00 per hour after 2 hours" just plain sucks. 2 hours unloading a hopper bottom is a lifetime. The last hopper bottom company I worked at, they gave a flat $20 for loading and $20 for unloading. If I would have been on a pay program such as yours, the chances of actually getting paid anything would have been few and far between. You'll find that most of your delays will be on loading anyway.
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Old 12-31-2008, 05:11 AM
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percentage
Not mileage pay

Example
1000 to truck 500 mile run
I make
255.50
+15.00 bonus
=
270.50

Not 25 cpm
25.5 percent
Cap is 30.0 percent

Only milege pay is bonus program

If same load is a
Weekend
Make
$50.00
More
5.0 percent weekend pay

So
320.50
If a weekend

Which has best freight base

Hopper
Or enddump

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Old 12-31-2008, 05:17 AM
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I forgot to mention also
This is OTR

5 days out 1.5 to 2.0 home
Can stay out longer if desired

Truck I will get is

2007 pete 386
With apu
65 governed
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actually, your getin a decent deal with that kind of percentage!! who is this company??!! i pulled a 40ft frameless dump from 12/97 til 12/2000 and made 27% and i made good money back then. we got into hauling contaminated soil for alot of big companies throught the country. i would love to get back into end dump and hopper bottom work!!
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Old 12-31-2008, 06:10 AM
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they have 40 ft frameless

It's a small outfit by my house here in mo

A&r transport
Has some good deals
Artransport.com

Bulkmatic
Also

This deal I have u have to live close to yard like 50 miles only one terminal

The haul
Bad dirt
Lime
Rock
Grain
Bout anything

I was reading the pamplet
And if u get 2700 miles with no accident they also pay
You an additional
5 percent of your gross pay
So
1000 gross
Would be 50 bucks
So hey.....

I just wonder if the freight is more a plenty on
Hopper or dump
I gotta decide my division

I figure more freight less mt miles equal more cash
Even if it's a little less a ton pay
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:08 AM
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i used to work for them. they didnt have end dump or hoppers when i was there. you will make money with them. you need to ask them which division does better and ask them if you are allowed to pull both depending on what they need at the time!! just make sure you communicate with them. i got fired because of lack of communication. in orientation, they told us to never turn down a load..so i didnt and got tired because of trying to run run run and i had a few late loads pulling a liquid tank for them and they got upset. so make sure to communicate and let them know about your hours, like i said, you will make money with them. please keep me up to date and let me know how things go with them!!!
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:41 PM
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yeah
U can pull both

But
U have to be attached to a division

They also have a few
Pneumatics
And
Vans
If it is other wise slow

They say it down now but in a month or so it booms till
October nov then slows a little but u can still
Get
750/ 850 a week slow time they say
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:49 PM
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Why

are you posting

like this?

It is

extremely

annoying.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:43 PM
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I have no idea what this company has for a freight base but from my perspective end dumps would have more work. Most anything that can go into a hopper bottom can go into an end dump and can be dumped anywhere. Hopper bottoms most always need a pit to dump over.

Downside to a dump is they are easy to tip over when you are dumping and this would put you at more risk for a crash on your dac.
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