Anyone know anything about US Xpress?
#41
07-26-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flood
Originally Posted by Skywalker
Now as to your claims of being only 2% out of route on HHG miles.... thats truly a scream!!
OK 071307 sitting at USF in clackamas, or. odometer 157405. receved load info pu in seattle, wa. stop #1 portland, or. stop #2 fremont, ca. finish hawthorne, ca. paid miles mt 186 loaded 1197. I suspect you are trying to shovel :dung: here. But for the fun of it, while you may have been on the right sides of Clackamas and ended up on the shorter side of Hawthorne..... YOU STILL GOT HOSED!! Here's why: Practical miles pay for that run would have been: 1380 MILES, or maybe you have a defective odometer? But any way you look at it, you got stiffed. 071707 sitting at bax global in hawthorne, ca. receved load info pu buena park, ca. del usx drop yard in kearny, nj. paid miles mt 24 loaded 2754 On that one you should have been paid 2819. 072107 sitting at usx drop yard in kearny, nj. receved load info pu newark, nj. del oakland, ca. paid miles mt 8 loaded 2889. That one you actually got paid well. But then again, its pretty hard to cheat mileage on straight runs....even though they did it on the first one above. sitting at fedex in oakland, ca. odometer reads 164545 so we have driven 7140 miles total paid miles 7058 But had you been paid Practical Miles......you would have been paid for all of your miles.... so we went over 82 miles and part of that (18 miles) was going out of route to have a trailer fixed ware i wanted to have it fixed (went to usx yard in colton, ca. to have it fixed instead of having it fixed at the TA in ontario, ca.) and 9 miles when i missed a fuel stop and had to go back to it. so if we had not gone out of route to get the trailer fixed and if i had not missed the fuel stop we would have gone over 55 miles you have this thing stuck in your head that HHG will always be 10% off i.e. that you will ALWAYS drive 10% more than you are paid for. all i can say is in that you are full :dung: 10% would be 705.8 miles over and 1% would be 70.58 miles over Its very obvious to me, and anyone who has any experience in this industry that you are severely "misrepresenting" several factors. First of all...every run that you have described is a "transcon"....which for the uninitiated means "coast to coast" and you are running team, which you did not clarify.... Me...full of :dung: , hardly....but then I don't "misrepresent" anything. But thank you for proving my point that you are getting shafted on your pay. I guess you feel you are adequately compensated for your efforts...but then you as a team are on a different pay schedule than the solo's at USX....right, or have you just been shoveling garbage all along? btw do you have brown eyes...? just trying to see it you are full yet Nope, not on either account....though I do wonder about you.... i have every trip we have run for the last three years on this laptop or the system at home and the most we have ever been off is 5.6% and we have alot of loads we run that pay more miles than the trip is :shock: You shouldn't be considering the runs you are doing....but you are still getting shafted on pay. Did you get paid for the "diversion miles to get the repairs done"? No? SHAFTED AGAIN!!!
The numbers don't lie,
I can only add that I have not told a single lie on this site ever, and your trite attempts to brand me a liar are farcical and laughable. That you do not know the difference and the reality between HHG miles and Practical Miles or the industry standards and differences is hardly my fault. Routing across 80 from one side to the other....hardly tricky, and well, it won't reflect that great of a difference. But solo's with USX tell me differently. The real shafting comes on the shorter runs, and gets worse when the runs break over the "break points". Out of route miles show up far worse on shorter runs that run diagonally and most generally where the interstates do not go directly from point A to point B. No matter how you shovel your particular :dung: ..... using team runs that are hardly representative of a solo's runs....is really dishonest and cheesy. Since you pride yourself as the "great maven" of routing.... suppose you give me a route for this trip: Jacksonville, FL to New Lenox, IL.....and I'll tell you my route, the mileage I got paid for it, and how many miles I actually drove to complete it. And before you respond...call your dispatcher and get the "paid HHG miles for the route"....OK?
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#42
07-26-2007, 12:08 PM
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One more question "flood"... if you are quite the "doyen" you believe yourself to be....tell us, why, if you have 3 years experience and are running team... Why are you not driving for "LandSpan" who pays their teams 53 cpm??? :?
You like red trucks? You can't shift a stick? Low self esteem? C'mon....tell us why you sell yourself for less than you can get?
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#43
07-26-2007, 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Skywalker
One more question "flood"... if you are quite the "doyen" you believe yourself to be....tell us, why, if you have 3 years experience and are running team... Why are you not driving for "LandSpan" who pays their teams 53 cpm??? :?
You like red trucks? You can't shift a stick? Low self esteem? C'mon....tell us why you sell yourself for less than you can get? Flood, if you are running team why did you get put on a 4 day run that only paid less than 1400 miles? Not very efficient, eh? And if you truly believe that a driver with 75,000 miles under their belt qualifies them as a professional then you are truly clueless.
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07-27-2007, 11:11 AM
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"flood"... we're waiting.... 8)
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#46
07-29-2007, 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Skywalker
One more question "flood"... if you are quite the "doyen" you believe yourself to be....tell us, why, if you have 3 years experience and are running team...i didn't say i had three years experience what i said was i have been running team with usx for over three years. i got my first cdl in oregon in 86.
Why are you not driving for "LandSpan" who pays their teams 53 cpm??? :? life my friend is not all about making money it maybe for you but not for me You like red trucks? i like black over gray better You can't shift a stick? learned on a 10, had a 9 and still use a 13 when i'm home Low self esteem? you realy don't know me C'mon....tell us why you sell yourself for less than you can get?
#47
07-29-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Karnajj
Originally Posted by Skywalker
One more question "flood"... if you are quite the "doyen" you believe yourself to be....tell us, why, if you have 3 years experience and are running team... Why are you not driving for "LandSpan" who pays their teams 53 cpm??? :?
You like red trucks? You can't shift a stick? Low self esteem? C'mon....tell us why you sell yourself for less than you can get? Flood, if you are running team why did you get put on a 4 day run that only paid less than 1400 miles? Not very efficient, eh? ya you got me on the one it was 071607 on 071407 i was in henderson, co. pu usf going to clackamas, or And if you truly believe that a driver with 75,000 miles under their belt qualifies them as a professional then you are truly clueless.
#48
07-29-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by Skywalker
Originally Posted by flood
Originally Posted by Skywalker
Now as to your claims of being only 2% out of route on HHG miles.... thats truly a scream!!
OK 071307 sitting at USF in clackamas, or.I-205 ex 12 4miles down s-212 odometer 157405. receved load info pu in seattle, wa. boeing field i-5 ex 158 . stop #1 portland, or. portland airport i-205 ex 24 stop #2 fremont, ca. i-680 ex auto mall pky finish hawthorne, ca. jack northrop field i-105 ex crenshow blvd. paid miles mt 186 loaded 1197. I suspect you are trying to shovel :dung: here. But for the fun of it, while you may have been on the right sides of Clackamas and ended up on the shorter side of Hawthorne..... YOU STILL GOT HOSED!! Here's why: Practical miles pay for that run would have been: 1380 MILES, or maybe you have a defective odometer? NO But any way you look at it, you got stiffed. 071707 sitting at bax global in hawthorne, ca. receved load info pu buena park, ca. del usx drop yard in kearny, nj. paid miles mt 24 loaded 2754 On that one you should have been paid 2819. 072107 sitting at usx drop yard in kearny, nj. receved load info pu newark, nj. del oakland, ca. paid miles mt 8 loaded 2889. That one you actually got paid well. But then again, its pretty hard to cheat mileage on straight runs....even though they did it on the first one above.ya 21 miles on the first one sitting at fedex in oakland, ca. odometer reads 164545 so we have driven 7140 miles total paid miles 7058 But had you been paid Practical Miles......you would have been paid for all of your miles....so what you are saying is practical miles pays MORE than you realy drive so we went over 82 miles and part of that (18 miles) was going out of route to have a trailer fixed ware i wanted to have it fixed (went to usx yard in colton, ca. to have it fixed instead of having it fixed at the TA in ontario, ca.) and 9 miles when i missed a fuel stop and had to go back to it. so if we had not gone out of route to get the trailer fixed and if i had not missed the fuel stop we would have gone over 55 miles you have this thing stuck in your head that HHG will always be 10% off i.e. that you will ALWAYS drive 10% more than you are paid for. all i can say is in that you are full :dung: 10% would be 705.8 miles over and 1% would be 70.58 miles over Its very obvious to me, and anyone who has any experience in this industry that you are severely "misrepresenting" several factors. First of all...every run that you have described is a "transcon"that's what we run....which for the uninitiated means "coast to coast" and you are running team, which you did not clarify....if you will reread my first post on this subjest you will see that i DID say we were a team Me...full of :dung: , hardly....but then I don't "misrepresent" anything.did i...? But thank you for proving my point that you are getting shafted on your pay.you did...? I guess you feel you are adequately compensated for your efforts...but then you as a team are on a different pay schedule than the solo's at USX....right, yes.. did i lie...? or have you just been shoveling garbage all along? btw do you have brown eyes...? just trying to see it you are full yet Nope, not on either account....though I do wonder about you.... blue i have every trip we have run for the last three years on this laptop or the system at home and the most we have ever been off is 5.6% and we have alot of loads we run that pay more miles than the trip is :shock: You shouldn't be considering the runs you are doing....why...?but you are still getting shafted on pay. Did you get paid for the "diversion miles to get the repairs done"? No? SHAFTED AGAIN!!! no i didn't thy wanted me to have it fixed at the TA IN-ROUTE i wanted to go to colton, ca to have it fixed, shower and get some things at the store. if i had the repairs done ware thy wanted i wouldn't have gone out of route so why should thy pay for me to go someplace other than ware thy wanted it fixed....?
The numbers don't lie,
I can only add that I have not told a single lie on this site ever, and your trite attempts to brand me a liar are farcical and laughable. That you do not know the difference and the reality between HHG miles and Practical Miles or the industry standards and differences is hardly my fault. Routing across 80 from one side to the other....hardly tricky, and well, it won't reflect that great of a difference. But solo's with USX tell me differently. The real shafting comes on the shorter runs, and gets worse when the runs break over the "break points". Out of route miles show up far worse on shorter runs that run diagonally and most generally where the interstates do not go directly from point A to point B. No matter how you shovel your particular :dung: ..... using team runs that are hardly representative of a solo's runs....is really dishonest and cheesy. when i was running solo for usx my avg over was 3.92%. avg load was 570 miles running team avg over (for three years) is 2.037% avg load 1783 miles your the one that thinks HHG is ALWAYS short 10% and as a solo or team i have never seen it happen Since you pride yourself as the "great maven" of routing....did i say that..? suppose you give me a route for this trip:why....? so you can feel better about yourself Jacksonville, FL to New Lenox, IL.....and I'll tell you my route, the mileage I got paid for it, and how many miles I actually drove to complete it. And before you respond...call your dispatcher and get the "paid HHG miles for the route"....OK?
#49
07-30-2007, 09:39 AM
I was looking at USXpress until I saw their Orientation information:
1 Orientation pay is $42/day (total of $126). This is only paid upon being hired. The first $50 of Orientation pay is advanced on your fuel card once you are hired. 2 Must quit current employer before attending orientation. Why would I quit before I knew I had a job with them? 3 You will earn $43.00 for every day you are on the truck with a trainer. Training typically lasts for 3-4 weeks. After upgrade you will run on your own for 1-2 weeks, so your initial time away from home is 4-5 weeks. After upgrade you will earn up to .35 cents per mile as a solo OTR driver, please ask your recruiter for details, and .20 as a team driver. This would not pay the bills at all. A burger flipper makes more in a day! Looks like a great company until you start reading things a bit.
#50
07-30-2007, 04:47 PM
When I was with Shaffer years ago and they were paying short miles, my overage averaged 8% versus practical routing. Maybe not the 10% usually mentioned, but close enough and, shorted me a few $$$. Regardless, I would still pick Crete/Shaffer over U.S. Xpress (or just about any other large van/reefer company for that matter) any and everytime if I had to.
A 1,783 average load as a team huh? Is that loaded miles only or total trip length? The reason I ask about this is because I averaged 2,054 total miles per load at Jim Aartman. Just my opinion, but teaming isn't the only way to get high miles out here in this industry :wink:...
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