Stevens Transport, I call BULLS**T

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Old 06-09-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BanditsCousin
3 or 4 days is a big difference, up to 11 hr actually I don't know how to legally run STL to LA and be in ohio within 6 or 7 days legally, but I'm sure it can (and has) been done fudging a lil.
i think maybe by the time i got into ohio it was into the second week.
it was because i went from LA to dallas then to NC then to ohio.
 
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Danceswthsheep
Just for debate sake, I will give you my take on the SWIFT/JBHUNT message board flamings that go on.
When you are talking about both these companies, you are talking about the two largest truckload companies in the nation. Between the two of these companies, you are talking about over 30,000 drivers. Im not denying that drivers havent gotten a raw deal at these companies....it happens at all companies. Many times it the drivers fault and he wants to blame others.....many times it might be the dispatchers or fleet managers fault. Now, for the sake of argument lets say 20% of all drivers just arent going to do well at any company. If you lump the 30,000 drivers of swift and JB into one pile and figure 20% of them just arent going to do well anywhere. That would make 6000 drivers all out there on the CB complaining that they were screwed. Now out of those 6000 drivers how many of them do you think werent really screwed but screwed up themselves. I would say quite a few. Either way 6000 drivers complaining makes a lot of noise. Now.....on the other side of things....say you have some smaller trucking company out there with 100 trucks. Say they are run really badly and are screwing 50% of the drivers....That would mean 50 drivers out there complaining. You might NEVER hear anything bad about that company on the CB or message boards. Would that make them a great company to work for?
As a recruiter I get to see this industry from a different perspective than drivers. I talk to at lease 150 drivers a day from all companies. I hear what they are happy about and what they complain about. I have never found a company that didnt have at least one driver say they were the worst company around. On the other hand, I have never found a company where a driver wouldnt say they are the BEST company around. You look at these message boards and it looks like Every single driver out there is not happy with their work or company. REALITY: The vast majority of all drivers at any company are very happy with their employer....Believe it or not....even Swift. I have talked to many Swift drivers that are happy there. Now....as a driver. You might ask, " If drivers are mostly happy with driving at JB, Swift, or any of the other big companies.....WHY DONT I EVER HEAR ABOUT THEM?" REASON: People who are happy tend to be WORKING not complaining.
Well thats my theory.....feel free to tear it apart if you must.
1. My comments were not so much from listening to disgruntled drivers but by doing business case studies on these companies. How they grew, (buying companies vs. increasing market share through competition); What polices they implemented like HR and benefits; Logs and Safety; Marketing; Freight strategies; ....

So my thoughts were that when a company grows rapidly and does not have strong leadership to implement polices then the company spasmodically implements its own polices and they tend to be headquarter and infrastructure biased without regard to its effects on the driver or the holistic company. The final result is that quality suffers and finally shippers seek elsewhere. The ramifications of this cycle lasts for years.


In the case of this thread the lack of recruting feedback loops enabled this recruiter to tell tall tales which has ended up in this thread. In addition., Stevens Transport has had its share of bad press because of nepotism in the front office. Eventually these companies sink or swim ..
 
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Im so damn glad my o'lady talked me out of getting on that greydog to dallas :lol: :lol:
 
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Stevens Transport will promise every lie you will swallow, and then back up none of it and get mad if you call them on it. Here are some of Stevens Transport rules you will have to follow to work for them. You must go down 5 and 6% grades in 4th gear, that's about 9 to 12 mph, wanna hear every other trucker on the hill scream at you, but it's Stevens policy. You must maintain 540 feet of space between you and the vehicle in front of you, try that on the Jersey Turnpike, but it's Stevens policy. You must call Stevens Safety to drive after midnight, to drive deadhead, to drive bobtail. When you call, no one will answer the phone for at least 15 minutes and usually 30 minutes. They promise 2500 to 2800 miles per week to new drivers, but you won't see 2000 a week generally. You will be waiting at shippers and receivers for no less than 2 hours and that is unusually fast if you only wait that long. I've waited 2 days for a shipper to load a trailer. Stevens promises tuition reimbursement, but they will deduct tuition from your paycheck. If you have a family and want the medical benefits, it'll cost you $80 a week, there is a co-pay for every visit and when you start with them at .26 per mile, the medical deductions will eat up whole paychecks. So you can expect $0.00 for some loads. When you do get a good load run, you will find that some lease operator needs a run so he can pay the ransom for the truck they are fleecing him/her on so you will have the load taken from you and be left waiting. Stevens runs all reefers generally. Like flowers and shrubs? You won't after they fleece you with one of their "nursery runs". You'll stop several times a day to air the flowers for 15 minutes, have 9 drops, be running around a town like a bread delivery truck and all for a paycheck that will leave you shaking you head wondering why you wasted your time. When you finally decide that going bankrupt working for Theivens Transport is simply not financially in your best interest, they will kick you out of their truck, leave you high and dry somewhere and then steal whatever paychecks you still have outstanding on trumped up deductions and fees. While working for them, your money will pay for their business whenever you run on a toll road, you get to pay the toll and they will reimburse you later. Need to pay a lumper to unload, you'll get a lot of that, the money is out of your account until they reimburse you after the paperwork is filed. You are told what fuel stops you can fuel at and they even lock you in to a specific location, even if that station is out of fuel at the time. You must submit a detailed trip plan to the home terminal for every trip, you must check call in every day and submit fuel reports every week and if Compliance wants to audit your logs, you must pay to fax them in to them, and they will reimburse you later. You wanna go broke and be aggravated to death, go work for Stevens, but don't say I didn't warn you. I been there, done that, got no tee shirt, but I do have a lasting grudge.
 
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http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=18671

Stevens transport lease purchase :roll:
 
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The only way remotely possible to run 4500 miles a week as a solo driver would be 100% drop an hook with no more than 15 minutes in between loads and really long runs where you could keep your average speed up to 65 +
Shoot I dunno. I did 4328 in 6 days, could have gotten to 4500 if I ran for an extra day. And I did it 100% legally too.

That included about 5 hrs total of loading/unloading time too if I remember correctly. So its totally possible.. maybe not at Stevens but it can be done and a lot of us are doing it.
 
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I averaged 4550 a week last year, running for myself of course and 100% legal.

I think the absolute max a solo driver could do legally if all he did was drop and hook and never wait would be 5-5200 depending on the speed limit.
 
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Anyone who claims more than 682 miles a day is full of it. If the speed limit is 70 mph, then over 11 hours you will likely AVERAGE 62 mph, given traffic, starting and stopping, fuel, etc.

Even if you drove 11 hours at 70 mph nonstop, you wouldn't average 770 miles over 11 hours, as you have to get up to 70 mph at the beginning, and slow down at the end.

And I challenge anyone to show me any spot in the country where you can set your cruise control for 70, and not pop it off for 11 hours.

70 hours / 8 days = 8.75 hours per day - .5 hours for pre/post trip = 8.25 hours per day - 1 hour loading/unloading = 7.25 hours per day for driving (not counting fuel time)

7.25 hours X 62 mph = 449.50 miles per day X 8 days = 3596 miles in 8 days MAXIMUM.

Anything more is either BS or illegal.

Sorry for breaking my own rule and bumping an old thread. Sheepdancer made me do it. :wink:
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Anyone who claims more than 682 miles a day is full of it. If the speed limit is 70 mph, then over 11 hours you will likely AVERAGE 62 mph, given traffic, starting and stopping, fuel, etc.

Even if you drove 11 hours at 70 mph nonstop, you wouldn't average 770 miles over 11 hours, as you have to get up to 70 mph at the beginning, and slow down at the end.

And I challenge anyone to show me any spot in the country where you can set your cruise control for 70, and not pop it off for 11 hours.

70 hours / 8 days = 8.75 hours per day - .5 hours for pre/post trip = 8.25 hours per day - 1 hour loading/unloading = 7.25 hours per day for driving (not counting fuel time)

7.25 hours X 62 mph = 449.50 miles per day X 8 days = 3596 miles in 8 days MAXIMUM.

Anything more is either BS or illegal.

Sorry for breaking my own rule and bumping an old thread. Sheepdancer made me do it. :wink:
But if you drive 682 miles in 11 hours and then take 10 hours off you still have 3 hours of "day" left (excluding pre/post trip and fuel of course) Keeping up that cycle you will be taking a reset day 6 and rolling again day 7. This gives you 77 hours in 7 days and 88 hours in 8 days.
 
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Blind Driver
I'm calling bulls**t :dung: on Steven's Transport.

We had recruiter in class today telling us how Steven's Transport was the best company to go work for :roll: .

He was telling us they have a driver getting 4500 miles a week :shock:.
4500 miles...whatever :roll:

Then he started pushing their Lease-Purchase program at us. A responsible company would not puch that program at a rookie driver with only 45 days behind him.
He then started to tell us that one of their drivers made $275,000 last year :roll: . Oh when will the bulls**t :dung: end?

I wonder what the school's staff will say when I tell them about the recruiter pushing the lease-purchase program at us? Which is a BIG no no where I am. That's why JB Hunt isn't allowed on the property 8)

This guy kept conterdicting himself every 5 minutes.

Anyone have any experience with this company. I was going to apply with them, but their recruiter scared me off 8)
This recruiter came to our class 2 days ago, the whole time he was "Preaching" I thought the same thing " Car Salesman"..."Bullshi*" I also found that he contradicted his self a few times, I called him out a couple times, the first time he kinda dodge the subject,didn't answer me question, then changed the subject. The second time he looked at me annoyed. (I think it was about the lease program) and he said "talk to me after class, i'll take care of ya"....after class he said he couldn't answer my question and gave me the number to a woman that ran the leasing dept.. who coincidently had the same last name..(Anderson)
I called my fiance' during a break and told her about it, and when i got home i looked here and was glad to see someone else caught the same things i did!
Sad part is i think MOST of the people in the class applied right afterwards and bought all the hype :?
 

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