Well if I was that happy I would already be making a good wage and home time. I say good equipment that was allowed to run and screw the insurance co. oh and kill all laywers too!!!!! :rock: :rock: :moose: :withstupid:

 

And I will add this. It goes back to all the waiting OTR drivers have to do at a shipper or reciever. How would you like to sit at your desk all day bluebeetle for atleast 2 days out of your work week and not be paid at all. But you still have to shuffle paper work and answer the ph. And no I am not harping on you. But why on gods green earth dont companys prevent this type of BS. Either by paying the drivers a decent hourly wage while sitting or inforceing that drivers are not free help to load or unload the truck. And please dont say well we pay drivers to unload. I have been there done that. Companys dont pay a driver ditcuss to unload.

 

Sanchez is right nothing against you bluebeattle but I have to say Companies need to pay drives for their time I work for money I perfer to really call giving up my finite hours and days of my life in exchange for money. when a company pays a driver 50 to unload the truck but will pay a lumper 250 to do it something is wrong. Or the company charges detention pay after 1 hour but only starts to pay the driver after four hours Come on That is why I now drive local and am a teamster. I get paid for everything I do plus my Union contract pays me milage plus hourly wage. if I am stuck in traffice still make money stuck at a wearhouse still make money. If some shmuck tells me to lump my truck 25.50 an hour and I take my sweet time. See companies don't want drivers to belong to the Union it would make them have to pay a real wage real benifits. And so untill drivers wake up and can see that nothing will change. As P.T. Barnum once said there is a sucker born every minute. So as with trucking there is a driver willing to work cheap and free every min. And recruiters know this and feed on that. Some things that would be good to see is dipatchers that have to drive as well and recruters that also are drivers for the company they work for. Novel Idea.

 

Hey blueboy. Would really love a reply from the other side of this story.

 

Been away at meetings.

Here is the way I look at compensation for drivers and I might be off base. Drivers are strictly payed based on a commission base system. The harder you work the more your pay. Drivers at Crete Carrier are compensated for loading and unloading. No it isn't what it could be or should be and it is no where near what they are willing to pay a lumper to do the same thing as a driver. So my question is, if we are willing to pay for a lumper, why would you WANT to load or unload?

Now, we changed our billing procedure to our customers concerning detention time in that the billing process starts after the first hour. Yes, the driver is paid when the company is paid. It doesn't show up on the paystub as "detention pay" so there is not a really good way for the driver to see when he/she gets it but it does happen. We increased our Marketing department to handle the extra billing and collection process so we all hope that it is happening. But it is still up to the driver to turn in the necessary paperwork to get the customer billed correctly.

Now would I like to sit at my desk for a couple of days, do my job, and not get paid, no that wouldn't be fun. But it happens. The only way that I am recognized for my productivity is how many people are in the system with my name on the application as the recruiter. I am not paid on the number of hires, but my annual raise and my quarterly bonus depends on how many people are there. Now what happens if I spend all day offering advice and recommendations on this board about how good it is to work for Crete Carrier you read this information and go online and fill out an application. You don't know my name so you don't put down that I 'had talked with you" and the app gets another individuals name on it. That person looks great and I keep slugging away at filling Acklie trucks. I know it happens, but I don't lose sleep because I am doing my job and that is filling Acklie trucks. I am a salaried employee who works 40+ hours a week and have a great time doing it. Do I break a sweat doing it---NO!!! But I didn't choose to get into this occupation to 'sweat' but rather to educate people about the benefits of coming to work at an Acklie company.

Now should companies change their pay packages to compensate a driver for loading and unloading, your asking the wrong person. I feel that if the company says that they will pay a driver for this act and it isn't the greatest pay package then why are you going over there if most of their loads are driver touch freight? If the company is offering a great rate of mileage pay and will compensate the driver for a minimum amount of loading and unloading, then see if everything else outweighs this problem and go from there.

Life is a matter of choices. If you choose to load and unload when there is a lumper that will be paid by your company to do the work then use them. If you want to get some exercise and have the time, then take what the company will pay you and have a good workout.

By the way the Acklie Companies are Crete Carrier, Shaffer Trucking and Hunt Transportation. Let's see, that would be dry van, refrigerated or flat bed. Covering the basics of the trucking industry with excellent pay packages and excellent benefits.

 

yes blue but here is my point I can hire a lumper his cost is say 250 to do the job. The company pays the lumper 250.00 say the driver needs an extra 250, he tells the company hey I'll do the same company say ok here is 50.00 for a hand un load. I know for a fact that most companies do this. I would be more than willing to lump my own truck in fact I do but i do get paid well for it. So it boils down to one thing Most companies will cut the bottom line to save money. And that is the driver he is the bottom line. See if the drivers were not exempt from the fair wage and standard act of 1930, Drivers would have to be paid an min wage for wait time, plus milage and other compensating factors. So it boils down to one thing write your congress man. To change the law. Just my 2.5 cents

 

Well sorry to disagree with you, but if you check, most of the reputable companies largest two expenses is driver wages and fuel costs then insurance.

If there is a different order, then I go back to my statement on reputable companies.

The fact that the carrier will pay you less is for safety reasons. First of all you won't be too tired to drive and number two, less chance of an injury.

 

the ting of it is is pay the driver. Blue your a recuiter for a shall i say well knowen and good company. Ok are you also a driver or ever been one? If you are you would understand that any driver would want to make the most money. I worked for a real great company but what ticked me off the most was they pay for all lumpers don't have problem with that. but if I want to lump it its only 50 bucks but yet they pay any were up to 300 to lumpers thats wrong. and I have asked drivers from other companies and they tell me the same. So the only thing to do is moan and grown. like I am doing. Or write our congress men and senetors and make Truckers a part of the fair wage and standards act. because companys will not change till they are forced to change. No matter how good they are.

 

Nope not a driver. Never have been. Grew up in a family where dad drove.

Company is gonna pay a driver less then what they are willing to pay the lumper to lump doesn't seem fair to the driver, but from a safety stand point is needed to deter the driver from doing so. Having a driver get injured hurts both the driver and company.

You get upset because the company is willing to pay someone more then they are paying you, does it also bother you then that if there is a variety in pay packages in a company that someone gets paid more for driving then you do?

I hire drivers that make twice of what I do. Does it bother me. Not in the least because it is a difference in the occupation. I am not going to write a congressmen to have him regulate it because I think government regulates to much the way it is.

Doc and I have had this discussion before. And to date nothing anybody has offered me has swayed my mind. It is the same as complaining that professional athletes are over paid. 8)

 

Well they are. And highly so.