They are professional ATHELETES, "heros, role models"?????? :shock: Maybe the parents of the kids who think of them as that should maybe DIRECT them toward other professions, as far as "role models and heros" go. That would actually be getting INVOLVED in your childrens lives, not just turning on the channel and letting whoever is on it guide your childs lives and social habits. That would take some ACTUAL EFFORT and TIME on your part, not just passing the responsibility off onto anybody else. As far as comparing Ricky Williams to Micheal Vick's crimes......smoking pot vs. killing dogs/dog fighting....... really think about that statement really, really think........is it the SAME?......think hard, do not just blurt out the first concious remark. :shock: NOT EVEN CLOSE. Ironeagle,....... have you ever heard of the expression "the person who speaks/talks the most is the one who is usually the most guilty" ? Just wondering. :wink:

 

Superdave do not even go there there are 3 people I consider my role models one is my father. He drove OTR for years sacrificing alot for HIS kids so we could do better and when the time came and he needed help I was the one that put MY life on hold til he was able to retire. Second is his father a B-24 ball turret gunner in the ETO who went on the Ploesti raid never met the man but he raised my father right. 3rd is my oldest brother a Master Sargent in the USAF last year when my middle brother and his wife screwed up so bad and lost custody of their kids rather than let them get put into the foster care system he adopted them both. He has 2 of his own and took on 2 toddlers when his are tweens that right there says more about his charactor than any professonial sports player.

I will never let my kids forget were they came from and also that family comes first. We are a close knit group and when the crappola hits all you have is family friends disapper faster than your cash does.

 

Ironeagle.......... I did not "go there", you went "there" and I was responding to how vague and ignorant your response was. The statement of the "REJECT from the Projects" did not come across very educated, not that you aren't, just didn't project yourself in a thoughtful manner. I might ad there has been plenty "rejects" from the sub-burbs as well. Neighbor hoods don't make "rejects", bad decisions make "rejects", no matter where you live. I know, it is just easier, for someONE to vaguely point at the "projects" instead of pointing the blame on the person rather than his/hers external elements. That is a WHOLE other discussion though, one that I am sure you would be biased. I was merely stating how unfair it was to put M. Vicks charges against R. Williams. They aren't connected in any way other than they are both black, which I could come to the conclussion of the wording of YOUR posts, that you might have some racist tendencies. :? Also, I did not question YOUR heros, I was simply replying to YOUR stating that "kids look up to you as a role model and HERO", AGAIN, I think people, like WHO YOU stated previously, think as atheletes as role models and heros are letting the television rule there childrens live's. I disagree with your comments as stated before, thats all I am saying. I am glad to hear you had such great role models, not everybody is so lucky, especially people living in the "projects". :shock:

 

I wish Ricky Williams the very best of luck and hope he stays straight.