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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
§395.8 Driver’s record of duty status.
(c) For each change of duty status, the name of the city, town or village, with State abbreviation, shall be recorded.
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As usual, Rev... we are arguing multiple points of contention in one thread. This started off (I believe) with me saying that no flag was needed for a change of status from line 1 to line 2 as they are BOTH considered as OFF DUTY. If you go to the FMCSA logbook examples page (link provided by GTR Silver in the "newbie question to laugh at" thread) and read the second para (I believe it was) under example #21, you will find THESE words by the FMCSA:
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Because the driver then took at least 2 consecutive hours off duty, he or she accumulated another 10 hours of rest in two separate, qualifying periods totaling 10 hours.
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This occurred at 9 p.m. on that example. The example clearly shows that the driver took ONE hour on line 1, immediately followed by ONE hour on line 2. Yet... the FMCSA "explained" it as the driver taking two consecutive hours OFF DUTY. THEY obviously don't consider that as a "duty status change." This is consistent with several other statements in the regs that consider S/B as OFF DUTY time. If you still have a problem with that, you might want to call and correct THEM.
The other point might be whether a flag is needed if a change of duty to line 4 or even 3 occurred at the same location as last flagged. I KNOW what the regs say. I also KNOW that J.J. Kellar doesn't show such a flag in their instructions for scannable logs. Perhaps, you would like to call THEM and correct THEM, too. (They also don't show a bracket.)
As I stated earlier, my logs have been checked thoroughly a few times by DOT officers who were LOOKING for any and all violations. It is their JOB (partly) to raise revenue for the state by ticketing us truckers for even the most minor mistake.
I will say that in most if not all cases where I have a duty status change at the same location, I use brackets. But, J.J. Kellar doesn't show that they are needed OR that a new flag is needed for each change of duty at the same location.
But, MANY times, I have flagged a stop going to line 1 for an hour or two to eat and shower, then dropped to line 2 as we left out with the other guy driving. I NEVER flag that change.... and I NEVER hear about it from the DOT or my company.
I believe this thread began with Matcat trying to simplify the program (especially the remarks section) as an improvement over the messy, anal method that DDL uses. I gave my opinion.
I believe HIS program would pass muster with Kellar, and he could probably get a job with them. YOUR method would obviously get you a job with the makers of DDL.
