[Colts Fan]

Lets say that I start my day at noon and drive 165 miles to meet and switch with another driver. So I get back to home terminal at around 6pm or so with a total of around 330 miles driven for the day, 5.25 to 5.5 hours of driving time. Obviously I log this time as it is over 100 air miles from home terminal. Now, I go off duty for an hour and a half and then make a local delivery and two pick ups in a straight truck, getting back at about 10pm.

My question: Am I required to log those local pick-ups and deliveries at the end of the day?

[Double R]

Originally Posted by Colts Fan

Lets say that I start my day at noon and drive 165 miles to meet and switch with another driver. So I get back to home terminal at around 6pm or so with a total of around 330 miles driven for the day, 5.25 to 5.5 hours of driving time. Obviously I log this time as it is over 100 air miles from home terminal. Now, I go off duty for an hour and a half and then make a local delivery and two pick ups in a straight truck, getting back at about 10pm.

My question: Am I required to log those local pick-ups and deliveries at the end of the day?

You're kidding, right?

[Uturn2001]

I hope this question is about using a time sheet/card vs. using a log book.

If your company uses both, time sheets and log books, depending on where you are going then you can switch between the two during the day, however you will still need to log the time you used the time sheets on the log page.

[Colts Fan]

Originally Posted by Double R

You're kidding, right?

No I'm not. The reason I'm asking is because the pick-ups and delivery are within 100 air miles of home terminal. I do not log them.

[got mud?]

Originally Posted by Colts Fan

No I'm not. The reason I'm asking is because the pick-ups and delivery are within 100 air miles of home terminal. I do not log them.

you have to log any work you do even if it is for a different company and different job all together. so yes you would be required to log this too. i'm sure someone will come along and give you the exact regs. stand by...

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by Colts Fan

No I'm not. The reason I'm asking is because the pick-ups and delivery are within 100 air miles of home terminal. I do not log them.

Then, based on what I am reading in the regs, you are logging incorrectly. You cannot simply use the 100 air mile radius exemption just because part of the day you are within 100 air miles of your work reporting location. If that were the case, every OTR driver would stop logging as soon as they were within 100 air miles of their terminal.

On the day in question, you could not use the 100 air mile radius exemption. The next day you may be able to (assuming you met the requirements).

Here's the pertinent info (please note that the FMCSA website still uses the 10 hours on duty and 8 hours off duty, which is incorrect):

§395.1 Scope of the Rules in This Part

Question 22: A driver returns to his/her normal work reporting location from a location beyond the 100-air-mile radius and goes off duty for 7 hours. May the driver return to duty after being off-duty for 7 hours and utilize the 100-air-mile radius exemption?

Guidance: No. The 7-hour off-duty period has not met the requirement of 8 consecutive hours separating each 12-hour on-duty period. The driver must first accumulate 8 consecutive hours off-duty before operating under the 100-air-mile radius exemption.

[Blind Driver]

Lets say I'm delivering within a 100 mile radius for 4 hours. Then the company send me 150 miles out. How would this be logged since I have no clue what the times where earlier.

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by Blind Driver

Lets say I'm delivering within a 100 mile radius for 4 hours. Then the company send me 150 miles out. How would this be logged since I have no clue what the times where earlier.

You can't remember what you did 4 hours ago?:roll::hellno:

[Myth_Buster]

No I'm not. The reason I'm asking is because the pick-ups and delivery are within 100 air miles of home terminal. I do not log them.

Every driver is subject to the HOS. Drivers who qualfy for the 100 air-mile exception from the log only have to log days they failed to meet the 100 air-mile exception.

A driver is excepted from the log book if:

1. The driver operates within 100 air miles of the terminal.

2. The driver is released within 12 consecutive hours.

3. The driver has at least 10 hours off between shifts.

4. The driver does not drive for more than 11 hours.

5. The employer keeps true and accurate time records depicting:

a. The start time.

b. The end time.

c. Total hours on-duty for the day.

Once ANY ONE of the above conditions are not met the driver must complete a log for that day.

So yes you must log the stops within 100 air-miles for a day you exceeded the 100 air-mile radius.

Be safe.

[Colts Fan]

Thank you all for the information.