Line 1 and line 2 Off duty - Sleeper Berth
#31
07-26-2008, 10:42 AM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by matcat
Get somewhere, drop down line 4 drop, go up to line 1 and start my 34
#32
07-26-2008, 10:44 AM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by matcat
Get somewhere, drop down line 4 drop, go up to line 1 and start my 34
where is the rule that says you cant get in your truck if you are off duty? I cant seem to find it..
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#35
07-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by matcat
Get somewhere, drop down line 4 drop, go up to line 1 and start my 34
where is the rule that says you cant get in your truck if you are off duty? I cant seem to find it..  ). Though technically the regulations state if you are in those seats you must be logged line 4 (or 3 if driving), but that is not the purpose of the regulation! The whole idea of it (the spirit of the regulation) is based on the idea that in a team/trainee situation, you aren't working to train/working in any other fashion WHILE you are logged off or sleeper, and actually getting rest. Go ask 100 LEO/DOTs if they will pop you for log violation while you sit in the driver seat using your CB/laptop/reading book/whatever while taking a 10 or 34, and more then likely 99 of them will just laugh at you. But you may get that 1 prick that would be a prick.
#36
07-26-2008, 11:06 AM
Originally Posted by Fredog
so every minute you spent in your cab working on your truck was logged as off duty?? yea right..
where is the rule that says you cant get in your truck if you are off duty? I cant seem to find it..
Originally Posted by matcat
I've heard it said before that just the act of getting out of the sleeper, going over the pass/driver seat, to step outside, would merit going to line 4, which is just completely ridiculous.
It is just as ridiculous to say that if you sit in the pass/driver seat you must be on line 4
Though technically the regulations state if you are in those seats you must be logged line 4 (or 3 if driving), but that is not the purpose of the regulation! The whole idea of it (the spirit of the regulation) is based on the idea that in a team/trainee situation, you aren't working to train/working in any other fashion WHILE you are logged off or sleeper, and actually getting rest.
Go ask 100 LEO/DOTs if they will pop you for log violation while you sit in the driver seat using your CB/laptop/reading book/whatever while taking a 10 or 34, and more then likely 99 of them will just laugh at you. But you may get that 1 prick that would be a prick.
#37
07-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I've seen some pretty ridiculous hair splitting when talking about the regulations here, but this takes the cake.
Combine lines 1 and 2 to get your break, however it works for you and however your company recognizes it without giving you a hard time. I'm sitting here in the middle of a reset and saw an accident in the parking lot not too long ago. Mr. LEO came over and asked me what I saw, I spent maybe a half hour talking to him. Not once did he ask for my log book or mention it in any way. I'll be damned if I'm going to screw up my reset by coming on duty for that time. The example posted earlier of a typical reset, that's what mine look like also, most of the time. In my 12+ years of driving I have never had a log book violation while getting DOT'd. I also had a beer last night with dinner, get over it.
#38
07-26-2008, 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by SilverWulf
I'm sitting here in the middle of a reset and saw an accident in the parking lot not too long ago. Mr. LEO came over and asked me what I saw, I spent maybe a half hour talking to him. Not once did he ask for my log book or mention it in any way. I'll be damned if I'm going to screw up my reset by coming on duty for that time.
I also had a beer last night with dinner, get over it.
#39
07-26-2008, 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Fredog
so every minute you spent in your cab working on your truck was logged as off duty?? yea right.. then by your own admission, you broke the law, YOU said that you cant be in your truck and be off duty, so please turn yourself in..
where is the rule that says you cant get in your truck if you are off duty? I cant seem to find it..
Originally Posted by matcat
I've heard it said before that just the act of getting out of the sleeper, going over the pass/driver seat, to step outside, would merit going to line 4, which is just completely ridiculous.
It is just as ridiculous to say that if you sit in the pass/driver seat you must be on line 4
Though technically the regulations state if you are in those seats you must be logged line 4 (or 3 if driving), but that is not the purpose of the regulation! The whole idea of it (the spirit of the regulation) is based on the idea that in a team/trainee situation, you aren't working to train/working in any other fashion WHILE you are logged off or sleeper, and actually getting rest.
Go ask 100 LEO/DOTs if they will pop you for log violation while you sit in the driver seat using your CB/laptop/reading book/whatever while taking a 10 or 34, and more then likely 99 of them will just laugh at you. But you may get that 1 prick that would be a prick.
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#40
07-26-2008, 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Fredog
so every minute you spent in your cab working on your truck was logged as off duty?? yea right.. |
