User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 08-16-2007, 11:19 AM
kc0iv's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 1,147
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderingson
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfhobo

Just to be clear here, you realize this is a policy YOUR company has. The FMCSA does NOT "require" or "force" a 34 hour reset.
No, the 34 hr restart is not a company policy.
It is a provision (and part of the rules) of the HOS.
Scroll down a bit, and you will find all the rules about the 34 hr restart.

See this link for the scoop.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...#_Toc111021256
Quote:
(c)(1) Any period of 7 consecutive days may end with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours; or

(c)(2) Any period of 8 consecutive days may end with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours.
As you can see it is not required.


kc0iv



Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-16-2007, 02:59 PM
golfhobo's Avatar
Board Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: the 19th hole / NC
Posts: 9,647
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderingson
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfhobo

Just to be clear here, you realize this is a policy YOUR company has. The FMCSA does NOT "require" or "force" a 34 hour reset.
No, the 34 hr restart is not a company policy.
It is a provision (and part of the rules) of the HOS.
Scroll down a bit, and you will find all the rules about the 34 hr restart.

See this link for the scoop.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...#_Toc111021256
I think you misunderstood me, Wanderingson. Cmegobye said something about HIS dispatcher FORCING him to sit for 34 hours in BFE because he didn't trust his math.

He also said he'd been driving for 13 years, which I assume includes the recent period since the "OPTION" of a 34 hour restart was added to the HOS, and that he preferred NOT TO HAVE A FORCED 34 HOUR RESTART.

In ALL my (and others') discussions here about the new HOS and the 34 hr restart, I have never heard anyone use the word "forced."

IF he is being "forced" to take a 34 hr restart, it most certainly IS some kind of company policy.... cuz the regs certainly don't FORCE it.
__________________
Remember... friends are few and far between.

TRUCKIN' AIN'T FOR WUSSES!!!

"I am willing to admit that I was wrong." The Rev.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-17-2007, 12:01 AM
tdriver1959's Avatar
Board Regular
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

It is not required that you take a 34 hour reset but it sure is nice to have when you have the weekend off to gain all your hours back.
__________________
I wish i was fishing instead of working
Pacific Northwest is my playground.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-26-2007, 11:14 PM
Bandit102's Avatar
Board Regular
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 337
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

As far as I was made to understand, you don't necessarily get the hours back that you worked 8 days ago. The math has to work out, 60 hours in 7 days or 70 hours in 8 days. DOT told me that its the math in hours and the days have nothing to do with it.
__________________
1999 FL Classic, N14+ 525 hp, RTLO16-9-13A
1997 Van's Aircraft RV-6, IO-360
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-27-2007, 11:54 AM
kc0iv's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 1,147
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit102
As far as I was made to understand, you don't necessarily get the hours back that you worked 8 days ago. The math has to work out, 60 hours in 7 days or 70 hours in 8 days. DOT told me that its the math in hours and the days have nothing to do with it.
You always gain back the hours you worked 8 days ago. That is the math. Rev.Vassago gave the perfect example way back on Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:37 pm.

kc0iv
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-29-2007, 04:42 AM
Skywalker's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pulling a Tanker for Superior Carriers!!
Posts: 3,000
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default Re: Can someone please clarify this for me... old 70/8 hos r

Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckfam
My husband basically started when the new HOS rules came into effect. I was wondering about what happens when the 34 hour reset is eliminated.

I know it would revert back to the 60/7 or 70/8 rule. When someone drives 70 hours do you have to wait until midnight on the 8th day to gain time back to be able to start driving again?
At the present time...if the courts decision is upheld or implemented... what will more than likely occur is this:

34 hour reset goes away.

10 hour break stays.

10 hour maximum driving time, unless a 10 consecutive hour break is taken.

8 & 2 Split sleeper berth stays the same.

70 hours in 8 days stays the same.

Quote:
When you gain the time back, do you have the full 70 back, or do you have to start recycling time with no way to really reset?
Drivers will not recover all 70 hours unless they take off enough days to gain them back....that could mean 8 days straight off duty. Otherwise the hours will be regained at each midnight based on the recap when the hours of the 8th day fall off the recap when the following days log is prepared. The math sample that was shown previously was accurate.
__________________
Forrest Gump was right....and some people literally strive to prove it.....everyday. Strive not to be one of "them".... And "lemmings" are a dime a dozen!

Remember: The "truth WILL set you free"! If it doesn't "set you free"....."it will trap you in the cesspool of your own design".

They lost my original "avatar"....oh well.

Reply With Quote
Reply






Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:14 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.