"You can be sure the aftermarket will respond with a "piggy back black box that disables the OEM speed limiter device."

I'm sure that it will, but the point is if we make sure that law isn't there in the first place there will be no need to.

I'm sure you noticed that they want to make "tampering or altering" the unit an offence so you can bet that it will be big points on your CDL.
You can bet those slimeballs have got that covered already.

The last thing these people are concerned with is safety.

If it in fact was safety then they would be paying more money to attract responsible people and they would be maintaining their equipment.

When you see a trailer that belongs to some of these clowns just have a bit of a closer look at it.

Most of them should be OOS but the assumption is that because they are a large company they maintain their equipment properly.

I get dizzy behind some of these clowns on the road if I end up behind them they swerve around so much, maybe the swerving has something to do with the mileage pay.

I only have one truck and trailer both of which are new this year but I have between 3 and a half to 4 million miles safe driving with no accidents and tickets.
Half of those miles have been hauling hanging beef, originally in A trains between Calgary and Vancouver and then tridems East.
I now do door to door LTL which I have done now for the last 10 years.
The only time my spidey senses get tingling is when I'm around some truck belonging to some of the larger wheelholder fleets.

 

So, I take it that you are against mandated speed limiters? :wink: :P

 

Tell us how you REALLY feel PorchClimber :P
I KNOW you're not Originally from BC are you? I'm guessing Ab or Sask :P

 

You're right.
I was born in High River, Alberta and lived in Calgary until 1998.
I now live on the Sunshine Coast in BC.
Alberta is still be best place in the world to be for all kinds of reasons but my family wants to be here so here I am.
This is some of the most beautiful country in the world but it's kinda hard to put up with the tree huggers and the "New Canadians"
I don't know if others are aware but those clowns in the East want their speedlimiter BS to apply everywhere, not only just in Ontario and the US.
I think I've made myself quite clear when I say I don't care what they do in their own backyard but when they try shoving their BS our way then it's a different matter altogether.
Anybody that knows Canadian politics knows how that bunch in the East is always trying to stick their crap on us in the West.
They're going to keep it up until we finally have enough of them and tell them to park their BS where the sun doesn't shine and I don't mean Toronto.

 

LMAO-I knew it-I'm so smart :P
Pretty easy to guess-One of my best buddies Lives is Sask. and Western Canada pretty much detests Eastern Canada
High River is up by Peace River country isn't it? I used to run up to NWT and Peace River area quite a bit.
What the deal, and this is just coming from a U.S citizen so take it for what it's worth, the problem that began with the Canadian Trucking industry was when all the Immigrants came in from India and cause ALOT of Fatalities in Ontario and areas around there.

PS-When I said I bet you weren't originally from BC take that as a compliment. Ab, Manitoba, and Sask. are great people. I know some Native BC'rs who live in Penticton and Nelson and they're good people. And of Course Rocky who never comes on here anymore :P

 

No, you're thinking of High Level close to the Alberta/NWT border.
A place you don't want to be in the wintertime.
50 below sometimes can be considered a balmy day.
High River is just South of Calgary about 35 miles.

The trouble with Vancouver is everybody from all over the world is moving there and in my opinion is probably is about the worst city in North America to drive in with all the traffic and congestion.
You haven't even had any excitement in your life until you have to go downtown with a 53 ft trailer.

I especially get mad about the so called driver shortage here and importing "truck drivers" to fill seats.

Some of these "drivers" they get could care less about image or reputation and give everybody a bad name no matter what country you're from.

It's because of people like that who cause a lot of extra undeserved focus on the trucking industry such as the so called speed limiters.

If you think some of those characters from other countries get performing in the US you should see them in Canada where there aren't as many cops and DOT around.
You wouldn't believe some of the stunts they pull off.
A friend of mine runs a safety consulting business for trucking companies so I've had the pleasure of reading some of their accident reports that'll put you on the floor laughing not to mention some of the one's I've personally witnessed.
The scariest one (for the driver) was in the Fraser Canyon where you need to pay attention to what you're doing.
One clown going westbound laid a truck and trailer on it's side going through China Bar Tunnel where an Eastbound truck was.
It was so close that the eastbound truck had skidmarks all down the side of the van where the truck on it's side skidded alongside him.
It's Russian Roulette meeting somebody on a blind corner.
Yet somehow these large companies have managed to convince people in the government that there is a driver shotage and without foreign drivers we're all doomed.
I know plenty of companies that run top notch equipment and pay damn good money and also treat you right that never have to advertise for drivers and they get their pick of who they want.
The biggest laugh though is those people in Ontario.
I imagine you've been on the 401 so you know how they all drive.
In fairness I have to say that some of those trucks on that 401 do get out of hand but when the cars are all going 140 (90 mph) of course a truck is going to be slower even if it's doing 120 (76 mph) which a lot of them do.
Bottom line there is that there's too much traffic and not enough roads so their invent their speed limiter scam.
I know for a fact that when and if they come in with their speed limiter BS that you'll see all trucks there restricted to a single lane.
But like I said I never go there so I care less what they do but when they try to export their baggage onto other people and places then they need to be stopped.
The larger companies in Canada already govern a lot of their equipment at 68 MPH already so these speed limiters are a moot point except they think they need to handicap the competition.
In my case I could care less because I don't do trailer load freight very often so I wouldn't want to have anything to do with their so called customers anyhow.
If I had a choice of something to be forced on anybody I would like to see on board recorders because then for sure everybody will be on the same field.
Those larger carriers will get splashed with the same crap as everybody else when the crap hits the fan.
They'll be forced to pay everyone by the hour because they won't be able to hire anyone who will work by the mile.
It's like JB and Schneider with their dedicated local and short haul freight.
When they try to pay you on short haul by the mile just bend over because somebody is going to get screwed.
If they wanted to get lots of drivers then just pay a fair wage and by fair I mean $25.00 per hour or more with full days and they have people lining up at their door.
I used JB and Schneider as examples but they're all just as guilty.

My truck has 3:70 rear ends with and 18B trans with a Cummins ISX 565 so I can run 75 all day long but I usually don't.
In fact lots of times I run 68 or less for fuel mileage but I can do that without somebody telling me to or trying to force their shortcomings on me or anyone else.
JB tried his "perfect storm" crap with the original hours of service changes but when the came in with the 8/2 provisions he realized he can't have everybody that works for him sitting around for free because sooner or later when his drivers sit around that long they get time to think and that's the last thing anybody wants a driver to do is think.

 

I imagine you've been on the 401

I used to run the QEW quite a bit and that's when all the Foreign "Truck Drivers" were killing everybody on the Road. Used to go to Mississauga(sp) to the Big whse. area. What fun :P
I remember when I used to run Northern Canada quite a bit when you guys didn't even have to have a log book.
When I ran up to the Peace River area Calgary was growing so fast that it seemed the Route changed every time you went through it. It was BOOMING. I'm guessing it's booming again eh?
I hauled quite a bit of Wild Oat(?) killer up there and the people were unbelievably friendly. One time I delivered to a Farmer out in the Middle of the Bush and he told me to back up to his little dock at his barn and Told his wife to draw a Bath for me and then had me eat supper with them. That was Great but then again I pretty much ran non-stop from Muskogee, OK to there with little rest time at Sweetgrass Customs :P
Good ole days lmao

 

You wouldn't recognize Calgary now.
All of Alberta is booming and I want to move back there in the worst way.
maybe a couple more years of whining and then I will.
My wife can retire then with a nice big fat pension and I'll sell my truck and go drive in the oilfield.
I've been offered some pretty good jobs.
I don't mind what I do and the money is good but you have to be pretty thick skinned at times.
There are just too many rules and regs now made by people with ulterior motives.
I like doing LTL though, I run into some pretty good people all over the place.
Most of the time everybody's pretty good but there's always one somewhere..
I had a guy in Georgia not too long ago tell me I was too stupid to drive truck when I kept insisting that he had to provide me with customs doc's.
He said they were "at the border".
I say "what border"
He says "you know, the border".
He called me an idiot again so I called the broker and told him I was leaving the freight.
I grabbed my handjack and put his skids back on his dock and told him to have a nice day.
This particular guy was so ignorant that I didn't even get mad about it.
There's always one in every crowd but usually for every bad one there's ten good one's.
Life's too short to sweat the small stuff.

 

This particular guy was so ignorant that I didn't even get mad about it.

LMAO-gotta remember that one.
I wouldn't mind running around Hay River for a steady haul-I imagine it's booming also? Hunt used to run up there Steady from TX. during the Boom.
I don't know if you remember but during the Stampede in the 80's Molsons went on strike and NOBODY could get beer? I was trying SO HARD to figure a way to get a load of beer across the Border. If I could have pulled that I wouldn't have had to pull another load for the rest of the Year :P Man, People were PISSED
Wyoming seems to be doing the same as AB. and is booming again and I guess they're screaming for people.
I think the only difference between you and me is I HATE LTL-tried it a couple of times and just couldn't handle it-It was bad enough having to pickup at 3-4 places for Produce in CA. :P

 

I sure do remember that beer strike.
We used to bring back 2 0r 3 hundred (no,I'm not exaggerating) cases each weekend for our friends.
We were the most popular people around.
BTW, Hay River NWT is booming bigtime too because of all the diamond mines.
There's going to be a lot more drilling going on up there too.
It's good for us.
All of western Canada is booming just like the old days.
House prices have gone up so much around here that I couldn't afford my own house if I had to but it again at these prices.
Alberta is building a new road from Fort MacMurray to northern Saskatchewan just so people from Sask. can work in Alberta.
There are a bunch of big inch pilelines that are going to start soon down to you guys.
Alberta already ships 25% more crude than Saudi Arabia and they say by 2010 when a bunch of big plants come on line at Ft. Mac those numbers will triple.
The north around here will always be booming.
I think that's a good thing.
BTW did you ever get to Rosies bar in Enterprise,NWT across from the scale.