What you're saying is Deja Vu all over again when we had the Damned 55 mph speed limit in the 80's and we said the Exact same thing then.

Once they get these speed limiters in all trucks it is only a matter of time before they lower the maximum speed back to 55. They want to put speed limiters on all trucks so that they can run into Canada without having a problem. Ontario apparently wants to force all who travel their roads to have speed limiters. So, the ATA wants the entire industry to pay for their cost of doing business in Canada.

So block Canada :P
Like I said-Insurance companies and Lawyers have taken over ATA and that's the reason for this BS.

Well now, I'll go along with this governing bussiness as long as <u>all</u> vehicles are governed to the same speed, trucks, 4 wheelers, mopeds, etc. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander?

Be clear that it is the Province of Ontario ONLY that wants these speed limiters.
The large rate cutting companies from Ontario that can't get anybody to work for them want to get everybody underneath the rock with them.
FYI Schneider National bases 500 (?) trucks out of Ontario and as such they are part of the petition to the Ontatrio government.
Canada is a large country and Ontario is 3000 miles East of here.
For many reasons other than speed limiters I would be quite happy to see a large fence around that place and Quebec.
Ontario is a sewer on a good day.
Ontario can't manage their own problems so they blame them on everybody else.
With any kind of luck their speedlimiter BS will blow up in their face and their precious auto plants will move to the US because of lack of service.
Blame Ontario (and Quebec because they're in on it too) all you want because they deserve every bit of it and then some but the rest of us have no part in their BS. The CTA who claim to represent Canadian truckers supports their position and OOIDA supports CTA.
Go figure.
I have called those losers at the CTA and told them many times that they don't represent me or anybody I know.
They're just a bunch of people that couldn't get a job doing anything else so they bottomfeed off the trucking industry.
The Province of Ontario and the CTA can go take a flying f@*! at themselves. :evil:
They speak only for themselves. :!: :!: :!:

LMAO Porchclimber-Right on

Here's a cut and paste from Highway Star a Canadian trucking magazine of some info on these so called speed limiters.

Seems to me that what the ATA are telling people is not the same as what they are telling other people.

As Follows:

ATA officially backs speed limiters; O-Os say plan an assault on small biz
10/20/2006
ALEXANDRIA, Va. - American trucking companies wanting speed limiter legislation enacted in the U.S. now have clear support from the largest for-hire carrier lobbying group in North America.

The American Trucking Associations just wrapped up a press conference in which the group pledged it will petition the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to limit the maximum speed of large trucks to no more than 68 miles per hour. The ATA is also lobbying the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration to prohibit the tampering or adjustment of those microchip devices in the truck's ECM -- known as speed limiters (or governors).

"For the sake of safety, there is a need to slow down all traffic," said ATA President and CEO Bill Graves. "The trucking industry is trying to do its part with this initiative. No vehicle should be capable of operating at excessive speeds on our nation's highways."

The announcement comes two weeks after a group of large ATA-member carriers - including Schneider National, J.B. Hunt Transport Inc., and CR England -- joined public safety interest group Road Safe America in calling for a U.S. speed limiter mandate.

The ATA has changed its tune from when it said
it would only endorse voluntary speed limiters
The speed limiter idea was originally borne north of the border where the Ontario Trucking Association first unveiled its speed limiter proposal in the fall of 2005. It promised at the time to export its idea across Canada and the U.S. in order to maintain uniform enforcement.

So far it seems to be working. Not only has the powerful ATA jumped on board, but a Canadian speed limiter rule is also currently making its way up legislative ladders in Ontario and Quebec. In a recent interview with Today's Trucking, OTA President called the progress on both sides of the border "encouraging."

The ATA, however, is sending a different signal than it did earlier this year, when, unlike its Canadian counterpart, it said it would not pursue a legislative mandate, but would instead encourage OEMs to voluntarily limit the maximum speed of large trucks, at the time of manufacture, to no more than 68 mph. The customer, then, would have the option of requesting a higher setting, an ATA spokesman confirmed at the time.

Now the group insists its amended policy is a matter of highway safety.

"The federal government's lack of focus on speed in crashes involving large trucks represents a significant gap in its truck safety strategy," said Graves. "The majority of the federal truck safety budget is focused on ensuring safe equipment, driver fatigue and preventing impaired driving, which the industry supports. Research indicates, however, that speed is a more significant factor in crashes involving trucks than any other factor that currently receives a larger proportion of government attention and resources."

But the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) isn't buying the safety angle. It's about economics, says the group's executive vice-president.

"These petitions are intended to be a Trojan horse for the true objectives of big trucking companies -- doing away with current truck size and weight restrictions as well as increasing their importation of cheap, less qualified foreign drivers," Todd Spencer stated in a press release. "They are aimed at limiting competition from the small trucking companies that make up the vast majority of the industry.

"It is no secret that large trucking corporations want to maximize their profits by opening all national highways to heavier trucks as well as double and triple trailer combinations," he continues. "Those folks also wish to pad their bottom lines by bringing in exploitable foreign labor instead of paying appropriate wages to American citizens."

A fact ignored by these petitions, says Spencer, is that reduced speed promotes safety only if all vehicles are moving at those same reduced speeds. Currently, 30 U.S. states have speed limits of 70 mph or higher on interstate highways. "Ironically, should these petitions come to fruition, America's roads will become much more dangerous to motorists and truckers alike."

In fact several studies cited by OOIDA and its Canadian counterpart OBAC (Owner-operator Business Association of Canada), show that a wide speed differential between cars and trucks would likely cause more highway accidents.

Both groups say speeding truckers are a minority on North American highways and they emphatically urge governments to step-up enforcement of traffic laws already on the books to keep speeding truckers and motorists off the roads.

"Technology cannot take the place of a well-trained driver," says Spencer. "If the big trucking corporations were honestly interested in promoting safety, they would be petitioning for a requirement for comprehensive training for all new truck drivers."


The little bit of foot in mouth disease by the ATA that I note in that article is that they want OEM's to manufacture trucks with speed limiters installed at build time with the option of the purchaser having the limit on the speed increased at the factory.

Well how about those spineless pussies in the ATA just go ahead and order their trucks with the speed limiters installed on them and then go on about their business.

It a distressing thought when American and Canadian legislators look to the CEO's of companies that cannot even run their own business properly for advice on how to run North American highways.

The part that gets me so angry here is the losers in Ontario that want to drag everybody through their bulls*it.
If they want to limit speeds on trucks inOntario then go for .
Tough that's what you get for living in that sewer then.
As for me, I don't go to Ontario in a truck, car,boat,plane bus, bicycle,train or rollerblade so I really don't care what they do.
If they can't control the politicians they claim to elect then too damn bad for them.
In fact most people in Ontario are still learning to speak English and it's been noted that their turbans get a speed wobble over 67 MPH.
Maybe the world would be better of if everybody just boycotted Ontario but that's just what those losers in the CTA and the ATA want.
They can't compete with good management and properly trained drivers so they want to turn everybody else into the eunuchs that they are.
The only good thing that ever came out of Ontario or Quebec is an empty bus.

Here's a number for website for the Ontario Suckers Association with an email address and 800 number.

Why not let them know what you think of them:

www.ontruck.org

Here's on for the taberknackers in Quebec but they're still looking around for someone that speaks English.

Oh well, I just bet that someone that reads email can understand English.

http://www.carrefour-acq.org/fr/index.cfm

And then here's the so called representatives of the Canadian Trucking Association.

www.cantruck.com


Those losers in Ontario and Quebec are so full of themselves they think they speak for all.

The day we in the western part of Canada, which is the part of the country that actually pays the bills so that garbage in the East can sit around and dream up their BS, can finally separate from those losers in the East is going to be one happy day.

Go ahead and let those losers see what you think.
Those three organizations are to blame for all the speed limiter crap and then the ATA is so useless the best they can do is follow these losers.

You can be sure the aftermarket will respond with a "piggy back black box that disables the OEM speed limiter device." 8)

You'll also note that on the so called "Canadian" Trucking Association website they and their member from Ontario and Quebec, you know the same one's that want everybody else down in the sewer with them, want to change cabotage laws so that their members can interstate in the US.
Do you want these ratecutting scabs running around hauling freight point to point in the US.
They've screwed domestic freight rates in Canada now as it is.
The only place these losers can hire drivers from is Britain, Poland, Russia and India and Pakistan.
No wonder the trucking industry has gone into the sewer with sewer dwellers like these people trying to manipulate things.

Send their website to your congressman and let them see what these guys are really up to.