So what. Lemon juice works as a cleaner in many cases. But just because you don't see it advertised as a cleaner on the side of the bottle, doesn't mean it doesn't work as such. :lol2:

 

I never claimed to be a scientist or a researcher. All I did was offer information on what I have done with the vehicles I have owned and described to the best of my ability, the results I got in response to a question about what additives I use. I even said that I'm not offering empirical evidence but you haven't offered any empirical evidence showing that it causes any harm either, yet your not shy about stating that "Anyone who is putting transmission fluid in their fuel is a fool". There needs to be some clarification there too. I clearly started that I stopped doing that when they started dying off road fuel red and testing the fuel in the tanks of on road trucks. If that were not the case though, I would have done it right up to the last time I service a truck.

Maybe the packaged Injector Cleaning products are ATF or maybe just the detergents and solvents used in ATF in a high priced package. Who knows, I'm not a chemist or a marketing professional either. I'm just a retired truck driver that drove and pulled wrenches on trucks for more then 45 years. I know what worked for me.

 

Many cleaning products use lemon juice as an ingredient.

 

I never stated that it caused harm.

 

Sometimes you get fuel that is not quality & you don't know it. filled up months ago & got at least 1 pint of water in fuel. lucky my filter caught it. my neighbor had same problem, same location. so when you say use quality fuel in the first place, it's not like we choose to put low quality fuel in.

 

Knowing that I stopped adding it when the red dye became an issue, how else would your statement be expected to be taken. "Anyone who is putting transmission fluid in their fuel is a fool"

 

Because it's throwing money away on something that has not been proven to do anything, and then the guilty party is claiming it is solving all the woes of the world. That seems awfully foolish.

 

ATF is a thin oil; a lubricant. Adding it to your fuel increases your fuel's lubricity a great deal. Lubricity is why keeps your fuel injector pump alive, and lubricates the upper cylinder for longer engine life.

Back several years ago, when they lowered the sulfur content of diesel, what they added to remove sulfur also lowered fuel lubricity, and trucks left and right were breaking down because of it.

There is a definite benefit to adding ATF to you fuel at a ratio of say, 200:1. But you can also accomplish the same thing adding blue 2-stroke oil instead. Or maybe even whale oil for that matter.

I've also seen a study whereby adding 2-stroke oil increases your MPG a few % (but I can't seem to find it now, it was in a diesel pickup forum).

 

Show me an unbiased scientific study which supports this conclusion.

That is incorrect.

 

Right here!

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fu...itive_test.pdf

Check out the chart at the very bottom.