I can't get that link to work for me.



stonefly

You cant get the split sleeper berth to work for you either. What else is new?

That is because the posted url is broken. I have posted it as a hyperlink below. All I had to do was got to the FMCSA site and search for "Large-Truck-Crash".

Large Truck Crash Facts 2005-February 2007 - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

Thanks.



stonefly

I am glad that you found the site.

there should be NO rules about how long you can work or drive, you should be able to rest when you need to and drive when you want, the laws dont protect anyone, if a driver is going to run tired, he is going to do it whether there is a law or not, if a company is going to want you to run tired, same thing, if these laws are so good and make sure we are rested, then why whenever a big truck crashes, the first thing they say is " the driver apparently fell asleep"

I agree, Fredog. Logs and hos rules do little, if anything, to provide a greater level of safety. I don't think you could prove that restricting hours of driving make the roads safer. It would be interesting to have a study where you have two groups of drivers. In one you have those who log. The other group doesn't log but rests when they are tired and drives when they are not. I would guarantee that there would likely be fewer accidents from the group who didn't log. I would also expect the non logging group would be better rested.

People who would participate in such a study are not the ones I'd be worried about.

If I was part of the second group I probably wouldn't get any more miles. Maybe a little more.

What would change is those really early morning deliveries, I'd probably have a nap in the afternoon. Due to the 14 hour rule usually I just slug it out.

This is one of the main reason I have no desire to EVER cross the border in a truck!

In Canada we can still use the spilt-sleeper option...just DON'T try it down there! I use it all the time, and it works for me. I haven't slept more than 4 or 5 hours at a time since my FIRST of THREE shoulder operations back in 1990. I wouldn't be able to get up if I layed down that long!

I remember back in the bad old days before we had to run logbooks, I also remember WAY LESS truck accidents & being able to STOP when we were tired, have a nap if needed, etc. I long for those days. I'm pretty sure we drove LESS miles then too, for one the pay was a heck of alot better & we didn't donate the time we do now.

I like the 13 hour drive time we get up here, but then that's the way our cities are set up...we need the extra time to get where we are going. I also like the fact that we can split off 2 hours off our 10 hour break for meals or short rest periods without stopping our 16 hour clock, the only stipulation being that the breaks must be 30 minutes or longer to count. On the old rules we had to take breaks after a certain amount of driving time...thankfully they never took that away from us. At least they realized that 13 hours of non-stop driving is dangerous.



Do you spend more time north or south of the border allan?