[rank]

Just want to double check something. Quite sure I know the answer, but I'll ask it anyway because I beleive it's different than the Canadian rule.

Under US rules, if I started my day at 06:00, drove for 8 hours, went off duty for 4 hours, how many more hours can I drive that day?

[BanditsCousin]

1.75hrs, with a .25 hr post-trip would wrap up your 14hr day before a 10hr break.

[rank]

So those 4 hours off duty actually count against my on duty hours ?
I was thinking I could drive 11-8 = 3 more hours.

I'm pretty sure that once you turn the key, your 14 hour clock starts.

[Fredog]

Originally Posted by rank

So those 4 hours off duty actually count against my on duty hours ?
I was thinking I could drive 11-8 = 3 more hours.

off duty doesnt stop the clock anymore, when you reach 14 hours, you can not drive until you take 10 off
sleeper time of at least 2 hours does stop the clock, but you can still only drive 11
so if you started at 6 am, drove until 2 pm, took 4 hours sleeper time, came back on at 6 pm, you have 3 more hours to drive, then you must take another 8 even though you already took 4 because now you can take 2 sleeper periods but one must be at least 2 hours and one must be at least8


this is because a panel of idiots who have never even seen a truck up close determined that it's much safer to make you drive 11 hours a day and then take 10 off than it would be of you could stop and nap when you get tired and not be penalized for it.


and I know I didnt figure inspection time or any of that, just trying to keep it simple

[mike3fan]

Originally Posted by Fredog

off duty doesnt stop the clock anymore, when you reach 14 hours, you can not drive until you take 10 off
sleeper time of at least 2 hours does stop the clock, but you can still only drive 11
so if you started at 6 am, drove until 2 pm, took 4 hours sleeper time, came back on at 6 pm, you have 3 more hours to drive, then you must take another 8 even though you already took 4 because now you can take 2 sleeper periods but one must be at least 2 hours and one must be at least8


this is because a panel of idiots who have never even seen a truck up close determined that it's much safer to make you drive 11 hours a day and then take 10 off than it would be of you could stop and nap when you get tired and not be penalized for it.


and I know I didnt figure inspection time or any of that, just trying to keep it simple

Just for clairifcation the clock does stop with a 8 hour break,you can use this to split your sleeper berth or off duty requirement,but for the clock to stop it must be atleast 8hrs in duration.

[rank]

Originally Posted by Fredog

off duty doesnt stop the clock anymore..... sleeper time of at least 2 hours does stop the clock, but you can still only drive 11

so if you started at 6 am, drove until 2 pm, took 4 hours sleeper time, came back on at 6 pm, you have 3 more hours to drive

Ahh, I see. Thanks, that sums it up pretty well. They make a distinction between off duty time and off duty time in a sleeper. I didn't know that. Seems kinda silly.

[Fredog]

Originally Posted by rank

Ahh, I see. Thanks, that sums it up pretty well. They make a distinction between off duty time and off duty time in a sleeper. I didn't know that. Seems kinda silly.

silly yes. but that's how it is

[solo379]

Originally Posted by mike3fan

Just for clairifcation the clock does stop with a 8 hour break,you can use this to split your sleeper berth or off duty requirement,but for the clock to stop it must be atleast 8hrs in duration.

That is correct! So if you log 4 hours in sleeper, it wouldn't stop the clock! :sad:

[Fredog]

Originally Posted by solo379

That is correct! So if you log 4 hours in sleeper, it wouldn't stop the clock! :sad:

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yes it will as long as you take another 8, it has to be 8 even though you already took 4

G-3. How does a driver who is utilizing the sleeper berth provision calculate his or her compliance with the 14-hour rule?

A sleeper-berth period of at least 8 consecutive hours is excluded from calculation of the 14-hour limitation. All other sleeper berth periods are included in the 14-hour calculation (unless part of a sleeper-berth/off-duty combination of 10 or more consecutive hours).