[rank]

-These are the backhaul numbers for two trucks.
-Rounded to the nearest $500.
-Basically each truck made about $21,000.

-Revenue: $136,000
-Detention included in revenue: $4500
-Cost of OD permits: $2500
-Cash Flow: $78,500 (revenue minus fuel minus driver and is included because nobody agrees on ammort & depreciation)
-Profit: $43,500

-dead miles to pick up: 13,000
-loaded miles: 37,000
-dead miles back to yard: 11,000
-All miles: 62,000

-$/loaded mile: $3.52
-$/all miles:$2.19
-$/loaded mile high: Feb @ $4.45 (lots of snow. only 4 loads that month)
-$/loaded mile low: Dec @ $2.11
-highest paying load (on a per mile basis): $5.22 ($1122 on 215 miles and we did approx 10 of them )
-lowest paying load (on a per mile basis):$1.90 ($1050 on 552 miles).

[RostyC]

-Cash Flow: $78,500 (revenue minus fuel minus driver and is included because nobody agrees on ammort & depreciation)
-Profit: $43,500

Do you also have to deduct maintenance, insurance, tolls, etc.? or is that included.

-dead miles to pick up: 13,000
-loaded miles: 37,000
-dead miles back to yard: 11,000
-All miles: 62,000

That's 65% deadhead is that correct?

I read this article the other day and thought of a post you made a short time ago about an increase in freight recently. I wonder if your third quarter numbers took a significant jump over the other two quarters. Here is a link to the article and below were the paragraphs that made me curious about your post.

Consumers weren't the only ones buying last quarter. Gains in both commercial construction projects and purchases of equipment and software contributed to a 7.9 percent increase in business investment. The 5.9 percent rise in spending on new equipment was the biggest since the first quarter of 2006.

An increase in inventories contributed another 0.4 percentage point to growth.

The economy was also buttressed by a narrowing of the trade deficit that added 0.9 percentage point to the rate of expansion. The gap shrank to $546.2 billion at an annual pace, the smallest since the last three months of 2003.

General Electric Co.'s third-quarter profit rose as large- equipment orders climbed 39 percent amid a surge in demand from countries that are building airports and power grids, the Fairfield, Connecticut-based company said Oct. 12.

``We see orders everywhere around the world,'' GE's Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Immelt said on a conference call earlier this month. ``That seems to be accelerating, not diminishing.''

Also, lately I've seen a lot of equipment being hauled around here, new machines not old ones. I see Keen trucks everywhere and a lot of independents also.

Wifes calling, gotta run :lol:

[Orangetxguy]

Originally Posted by rank

-These are the backhaul numbers for two trucks.
-Rounded to the nearest $500.
-Basically each truck made about $21,000.

-Revenue: $136,000
-Detention included in revenue: $4500
-Cost of OD permits: $2500
-Cash Flow: $78,500 (revenue minus fuel minus driver and is included because nobody agrees on ammort & depreciation)
-Profit: $43,500

-dead miles to pick up: 13,000
-loaded miles: 37,000
-dead miles back to yard: 11,000
-All miles: 62,000

-$/loaded mile: $3.52
-$/all miles:$2.19
-$/loaded mile high: Feb @ $4.45 (lots of snow. only 4 loads that month)
-$/loaded mile low: Dec @ $2.11
-highest paying load (on a per mile basis): $5.22 ($1122 on 215 miles and we did approx 10 of them )
-lowest paying load (on a per mile basis):$1.90 ($1050 on 552 miles).

I notice you did not include your Head haul numbers!!! :shock:

Originally Posted by Orangetxguy

I notice you did not include your Head haul numbers!!! :shock:

He didn't include his Molson consumption either. I hate that word Molson, reminds me of Mold or Mole. They should have picked a better name like.

CanadianJug, BrewskiA or better yet, just plain BEER

[rank]

I notice you did not include your Head haul numbers!!!

that's because we are a private carrier outbound and I have no way to separate the trucking from the value of the product.

[rank]

Originally Posted by RostyC

Do you also have to deduct maintenance, insurance, tolls, etc.? or is that included.

That 78500 cash flow number is total revenue minus driver pay minus fuel. It's what we put in the bank......at least until all that other stuff you mention needs to be paid.

[rank]

>That's 65% deadhead is that correct?
Our DH is terrible. Mostly because we are in a bad freight area and need to return to that bad area after every trip.

>I wonder if your third quarter numbers took a significant jump over the other two quarters.
No...not a significant jump. September was awesome at $4.21/loaded mile but almost all of those loads were from the same broker so I can't say my phone was ringing off the hook.

[rank]

>He didn't include his Molson consumption either.
Buddy, in this business, it needs to be the hard stuff. Pure Canadian Rye.