[GMAN]

Originally Posted by henboy1

I have been sitting here since friday afternon.I called about 10 agents from MI in my book.I just cannot run my truck for 1.46gross or 1.56gross at 44kibs.One agent I called wanted my truck # and I reponded, if I book a load with you then I will give you my truck #.He said Nada and we both hung up.A lady offered me a load with about 3 stops to SC and this will be 200 miles from home.I just want a staright shot home and not more than 150(deadhead) miles from home.I just don't even want a short haul.My bottom line is $$1.75 gross and even that is hard to get in this damn place.I got a page for somewhere in Mi to peachtree city , GA.I then called because the system said the gross was $1400 and about a 700 mile run.He then tells me the fuel surcharge is 237 and he would have to subtract that from the gross.From $1.75gross per mile it now comes out to $1.46gross per mile.I just answered, Nope, I can't run my truck for that and we both hung up.

Henboy, the reason the agent wanted your truck number is to check you out and possibly post your truck. He can see how well you pick up and deliver your loads among other information. When I talk to a Landstar agent whom I have not dealt before, he wants my FEIN (Employer Identification Number). When I give this to him, he can see whether I am set up to broker loads through Landstar, and my history of on time pickup and deliveries. I have a 100% on time record with everyone with whom I do business. I just hauled a Landstar load for an agent who paid the truck $3/mile. That is what I received. I helped this agent out of a bind and received a good rate. He knew that I was dependable when he put in my FEIN. If you have a good delivery record with Landstar perhaps you should consider giving them your truck number. It sounds from your post, that you may be working against yourself in getting better paying loads. These agents aren't going to waste time on someone unless they think that they can rely on them to get the job done.

[coastie]

Originally Posted by henboy1

.I then called because the system said the gross was $1400 and about a 700 mile run.He then tells me the fuel surcharge is 237 and he would have to subtract that from the gross.From $1.75gross per mile it now comes out to $1.46gross per mile.I just answered, Nope, I can't run my truck for that and we both hung up.

Ok I am a little confussed here I maybe missing something, but in math does not add up what he saying and the figures.

1400.00 for a 700 mile run = 2.00 per mile 700+700=1400 so would't 1400.00 for 700 miles = 2.00 pm? where did the 1.75 come from? Could that 25 CPM lose be the brokers fee?

[sidman82]

Coastie, that $1400 is gross for the load. Landstar driver gets paid a percentage of that. Might be 75%. $1050.

Henboy and Cam,
You are using other load boards besides Landstars I hope? Just wondering.

[Cam]

Originally Posted by coastie

Ok I am a little confussed here I maybe missing something, but in math does not add up what he saying and the figures.

1400.00 for a 700 mile run = 2.00 per mile 700+700=1400 so would't 1400.00 for 700 miles = 2.00 pm? where did the 1.75 come from? Could that 25 CPM lose be the brokers fee?

He missed one Coastie, it's right here:

$1400- 237 = 1163/700 = 1.66(.65) +.34 = 1.42/mi to the truck

The price on the load is $1400. Of that $1400, $237 goes to the O/O at 100% for fuel. That leaves $1163 to be split between the company and the O/O. The O/O gets 65% of that which is $755.95. So, the 'linehaul' is only so, so coming out of MI, $756/700 = 1.08/mi. What makes this load better is the fsc is high, $237/700 = .34/mi. That's $1.42 per mile to the truck and that's not bad for Landstar particularly when the load takes you right to the house.

[sidman82]

I forgot your fuel surcharge, and was trying to get close with percentage.
Don't know if you guys have own trailer or theirs. :?

[GMAN]

You botched that one, Henboy. $1400- 237 = 1163/700 = 1.66(.65) +.34 = 1.42/mi to the truck...I mean, it would have gotten you to the house!


Coastie, the gross on the load was $1,400 including the fuel surcharge. The agent took out $237 for the fsc leaving $1,163 for the line-haul. When you lease to Landstar they pay 98% of 67% if you use their trailer. That is approximately 65% of the line-haul rate which is $1,163 x .98 x .67 =$763.63. You add in the $237 fsc ($763.37 + 237) = $1,000.37 to the truck. $1,000.37/700 miles = $1.43/mile to the truck (rounded up). It is usually easier to just figure 65% of the line-haul and add the fsc.

[coastie]

ok thanks guys.

[Cam]

Originally Posted by sidman82

Henboy and Cam,
You are using other load boards besides Landstars I hope? Just wondering.

We're leased on. I can find loads elsewhere but then I have to run them through a Landstar agent and I'll only get the usual 65% not counting fuel adjustment (company van). Some BCOs do this at times, I haven't done so yet. It just makes me wonder why I'm leased on if I've got to do that to get loads. I'm open to it, though. And, I'd have to learn to do it, haven't done it yet. One more thing, Landstar has this 'load matching' system whereby you plug parameters into the computer and are called automatically when a load matches those parameters. What that can do is get a guy away from the computer so that he's not staring at a screen for hours waiting for a good one to pop up. I like that, I want to be able to go off and do anything else and let the calls come to me. Searching for loads can be time consuming. I do it just as much as I feel I have to.

[Cam]

Originally Posted by GMAN

Henboy, the reason the agent wanted your truck number is to check you out and possibly post your truck. He can see how well you pick up and deliver your loads among other information. When I talk to a Landstar agent whom I have not dealt before, he wants my FEIN (Employer Identification Number). When I give this to him, he can see whether I am set up to broker loads through Landstar, and my history of on time pickup and deliveries. I have a 100% on time record with everyone with whom I do business. I just hauled a Landstar load for an agent who paid the truck $3/mile. That is what I received. I helped this agent out of a bind and received a good rate. He knew that I was dependable when he put in my FEIN. If you have a good delivery record with Landstar perhaps you should consider giving them your truck number. It sounds from your post, that you may be working against yourself in getting better paying loads. These agents aren't going to waste time on someone unless they think that they can rely on them to get the job done.

I love Jesus, think I can do some of that charity work too :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sage advice on that truck number if you've got a good record. Gotta be nice to those people, they've got what we're looking for (oh....,ok..., it's good to be nice to everybody)

$3/mile!!! Tell me it is OD and took seven hours to load and you can only run daylight hours and the permits and escorts were expensive and, and.... :cry:

[rank]

Originally Posted by Cam

So, here I sit in trucking purgatory, AKA Denver, CO, and this light breaks down from heaven. This agent sees my truck in the area and calls me up. He's got a load picking up tomorrow afternoon (great, because I'm unloading tomorrow morning) going to Tobyhanna, PA. Pays on 1692 miles and that's accurate with in 11 miles. Load is light, pays $1.28/mi all in to the truck. But wait, you say, that's not so much!? Brother, out of Denver, nothing short of a gift from God! The reason the agent called me is because he just wanted to book the load without having his phone lines slammed with a million calls. No lie, that's just how it happens on a good load. In this place, Landstar vans, this is a good load. Sure, there is also that one in a million like I had out of Denver last year paying about a buck-60. But this load, this load is still righteous.

If there were such a thing as a backhaul Denver would be the backhaul. Made $1.47 ttt OH to KC; $1.42 Topeka to French Camp, CA; about $1.60 Turlock, CA to Salem, OR 41K and mountaiiinnnnssss ( :x my jakes are really weak); $1.21 Porland, OR to Denver (kind of steals my thunder, the NW can be an even lower level of hell) :lol: and so now I'm off to PA at $1.28. PA isn't necessarily a good freight area but it doesn't require divine intervention to book a load out of there either.

These aren't bragging rates, many of you will consider them pathetic. This is just what it is, I'm just reporting. This means I'm still profitable although I may be working harder to make less than some. It gets the bills paid. It gets me into the heart of the season. I've got my eyes wide open for whatever opportunities present themselves to do better.

Oh, and here is the kicker. Denver to PA, I'm immediately thinking through KC and Indy etc. The load picks up Tuesday night and doesn't deliver until Monday... :? No, wait, the shortest route actually runs through Chicago, I'm basically running past the house with a couple of days to spare under load!!! :shock: Wonder what the house looks like or if anyone will still recognize me :lol:

~160 dead miles on ~6300 total miles from somehwere in OH to Tobyhanna,PA. Sweet.