[LOAD IT]

[quote="rank.

I wonder if you're going broke and don't know it.[/quote]

You bet he is!!!!

[csramsey640]

Whoa Whoa. I must have done something wrong. I just redid the whole spreadsheet and now Im getting very close to $2 per mile. :roll:


Wow really shows how much I saved going for that 1.40 load. Live and learn.

LOAD IT I must hand it to you, it made me go back through and re check, and I was way off

[Rawlco]

It always depends on which miles you are talking about:
loaded book miles
loaded hub miles
total hub miles

[BanditsCousin]

Originally Posted by Rawlco

It always depends on which miles you are talking about:
loaded book miles
loaded hub miles
total hub miles

HHG or Practical miles have a slight effect on year-end bottom lines too :wink:

[csramsey640]

This leads to me another age old question then. Ok with our customers we are fine, however I have yet to come across a load paying over $2.15 legal or not. short runs, sure $3 is common. but you burn countless hours doing so that it doesnt really make it worth it does it?

I have also yet to come across a broker willing to Neg, even after they state NEG under load rates.

[thejunkman]

I just ask the same question a little while ago after seeing your posting.

You can really waste a lot of time a week sitting and waiting for this or that. Especially once your already loaded-you dont have much choice then

[rank]

Originally Posted by csramsey640

This leads to me another age old question then. Ok with our customers we are fine, however I have yet to come across a load paying over $2.15 legal or not. short runs, sure $3 is common. but you burn countless hours doing so that it doesnt really make it worth it does it?

I have also yet to come across a broker willing to Neg, even after they state NEG under load rates.

Glad to see that NO WAY you can run for $1.00/mile. I knew something was wrong with your numbers. If more people knew they were losing money, freight would go up.

The age old question is what then....how little you will run for on the back haul? I figure it on a load by load by load basis. Here's the way I priced a load this morning (all figures in CDN dollars).

-Figure the extra fuel cost by going out of route (360 miles x $.50/mile = $180).
-Figure the xtra cost to pay the driver ($120 mileage, $100 wait and load time).
-Tolls ($100)
-Permits (none)
TOTAL = $500

So my cost to pull a load 44,000lb tarped load 500 miles over the Appalachians was estimated at $500. In addition, it was going to tie the truck up for 30 extra hours compared to if I dead headed home. How much to I rent my truck and trailer out for???? Lets' say $30/hr (it hurts me even to do it for that cheap). $30/hr x 30 hrs = $900 means I need $900 for the truck.

So I could pull the load for a low, low discount price of $1400....or $2.80/mile. They were only paying $800 ($700 US or $1.40/mile).

If I put myself in the truck I could probably do it for $800 but I've got another load waiting back at the yard so it's not worth the 30 hours.....not for that price.

The big companies have all this cheap freight locked up and they're just fishing for some poor independant sucker to come along and to it for less than cost just to get home. No you can't negotiate...why would they give me $2.80 a mile? For that price they can get one of their company trucks to do it.

[driverboy]

Just to add some more #s to the mix, O/O buddy pulls at 1.30 a mile signed on and nets over a 100K a year on a hard driven truck, 250,000 miles a year, half with him at the wheel, other half with his driver. His driver makes around 50K, he takes 50K a year and the truck makes 50K a year after all expenses. Not a bad gig at all but he is efficient, 1000 miles a day.

[LOAD IT]

Originally Posted by driverboy

Just to add some more #s to the mix, O/O buddy pulls at 1.30 a mile signed on and nets over a 100K a year on a hard driven truck, 250,000 miles a year, half with him at the wheel, other half with his driver. His driver makes around 50K, he takes 50K a year and the truck makes 50K a year after all expenses. Not a bad gig at all but he is efficient, 1000 miles a day.

These numbers are BS. Stop spreading BS!!

[LOAD IT]

Originally Posted by csramsey640

This leads to me another age old question then. Ok with our customers we are fine, however I have yet to come across a load paying over $2.15 legal or not. short runs, sure $3 is common. but you burn countless hours doing so that it doesnt really make it worth it does it?

I have also yet to come across a broker willing to Neg, even after they state NEG under load rates.

Welcome to the cut-throat world of trucking. There is no reason you cant get loads paying over $2.15 per mile, but someone whether its Swift or the guy that just started is going to beat your rate. We used to run Neenah WI to Youngstown OH every weekend for a year, never missed a pickup or delivery for $4200 dry load no haz, what a deal for us. Not on a contract, just gave good service. Broker came in and got it for cheap then couldnt move it on time. Shipper suffered, but they saved money.