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Old 06-29-2009, 01:16 AM
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I was talking to a guy today and he was pissed cause the people he worked for

are always squeezing him to do things he should not be doing..

Aka...Logbook kinda stuff...

Example:

A company is using pressure,coercion and intimidation to

push a driver into doing illegal things with his Hours of Service to

make them look good and him to avoid

a job jeopardizing service failure ?



In other words...you need me break HOS guidelines ?

"fine...ok"... "please activate the dispatch liability mode".

They then activate a button on their end....a light comes on on your

Qualcomm indicating they have done so.

They and the company are now subject to the exact same laws and penalties as the driver should a tragedy occur over the road.

Imprisonment...fines...etc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

Im working on this....Im gonna send it to my congress man once I work out all the bugs.

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Old 06-29-2009, 01:51 AM
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good luck with that....
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:51 AM
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I was talking to a guy today and he was pissed cause the people he worked for

are always squeezing him to do things he should not be doing..

Aka...Logbook kinda stuff...

Question is:

If a company is using pressure and coercion and intimidation to

push a driver into doing illegal things to make them look good and him to avoid

a job jeopardizing service failure...

why then won't they allow him 'sign off' on his or her Qual com while its being done ?

Or better yet can't they press a button in dispatch that drops that particular rig from their system temporarily ?

Wouldn't the truck essentially vanish.... like say .... an F117 :angryblue:
IF a driver were being pressured by the "Powers that be" to do illegal activities, why in the world would said driver want the Qualcomm disabled? IF I were that driver, the only communicating I would do with a dispatcher whom was "coercing" me into doing something illegal, would be via QC. As long as it is on QC, you have a written record. That record is permanent on the QC server in San Diego. (I hear they have a server on the east coast now...but I am not certain.)

You can disable a QC on the truck. Just pull the main power fuse. However. Doing so leaves a driver hanging, when it comes to trouble.

Keeping my azz out of trouble is the only reason I like QC. Otherwise...I would prefer it was not on my truck.

When dispatch say's call me....What ever it is they ask me to do....I tell them to send it to me on QC, if it is something out of the norm. And I am an Owner Operator...not a company driver.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:56 AM
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OK..thanks for the input

I will polish it up some more before I let the government view it
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:28 PM
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I was talking to a guy today and he was pissed cause the people he worked for

are always squeezing him to do things he should not be doing..

Aka...Logbook kinda stuff...

Example:

A company is using pressure,coercion and intimidation to

push a driver into doing illegal things with his Hours of Service to

make them look good and him to avoid

a job jeopardizing service failure ?



In other words...you need me break HOS guidelines ?

"fine...ok"... "please activate the dispatch liability mode".

They then activate a button on their end....a light comes on on your

Qualcomm indicating they have done so.

They and the company are now subject to the exact same laws and penalties as the driver should a tragedy occur over the road.

Imprisonment...fines...etc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

Im working on this....Im gonna send it to my congress man once I work out all the bugs.
never never do anything that a dispatcher ask you to do without having them put it on the QC you are setting yourself up for failure :argue:
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or you could, if its within reach, get on your catwalk, and unplug the cable coming out of the dome itself. That way should they ask whats wrong with your QC, you have a good excuse and can say it must have just worked its way loose. ;-)
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ditto on getting everything on the qualcom. have them say it right out "yes we know you are violating the hours of service but we want you to do it anyways" then refuse. The DOT is now matching logbooks to the qualcom and will pull the qual records during an audit.

I've been using a qual for 15 years now and when I ask the dispatcher to send me a message on the unit about some dicey thing they have just told me on the phone they have always immediately dropped it and refused to send it.

You might try this. Get this stupid action they want you to do on the qual then pull in the nearest weigh station and go in and tell the weigh-master you have something you think they might be interested in.

If you get fired:

1) You have a lawsuit because the rules state that a company cannot force you to do something illegal and
2) You don't want to work for a dirt-bag company like that anyways and your better off.
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One of the first things I learned about trucking is that almost everytime I told someone over the qc I couldn't legally do something, I would always immediately get a "call me" or my phone would ring. I was stupid at first and would either call or answer it and then go thru the hassle of "do this or sit for a few days/or you're fired/blah/blah".
Knight was really arrogant about what they put on the QC as they said they're system doesn't store what goes out on their end. They have every word(unless mysteriously it vanishes) you say but none of theirs. I reported a few Dispatchers that were threatening me on the QC and my phone and all I got was "Prove it" followed by smug looks. But then again most of them were fired or gone after a while so maybe Knight has an internal monitoring on their part, IDK
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I was talking to a guy today and he was pissed cause the people he worked for

are always squeezing him to do things he should not be doing..

Aka...Logbook kinda stuff...

Example:

A company is using pressure,coercion and intimidation to

push a driver into doing illegal things with his Hours of Service to

make them look good and him to avoid

a job jeopardizing service failure ?



In other words...you need me break HOS guidelines ?

"fine...ok"... "please activate the dispatch liability mode".

They then activate a button on their end....a light comes on on your

Qualcomm indicating they have done so.

They and the company are now subject to the exact same laws and penalties as the driver should a tragedy occur over the road.

Imprisonment...fines...etc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

Im working on this....Im gonna send it to my congress man once I work out all the bugs.
and what kind of bribes, er I mean contributions are you prepared to make?
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does this Qual Comm stuff happen a lot? Thinking of driving again (I drove in the military for a while)..but it sounds like the entire system is corrupt.
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