I honestly don't know, but then again, the partner question to that is: Can we really get ourselves out from under the trillions and trillions of dollars debt that the recently past administration put us into? We have to remember.... the start of the bailouts was during the past administration....first the unaccountable $7Billion to the "financial industry"..... supposedly to "shore up" many things, including "mutual funds".....:lol::lol::lol:, and then the first bailout money to the auto industry before the new administration took over.....

We have to be realistic and acknowledge that the previous administration literally pissed billions upon billions of dollars down the drain enlarging the government, while starting a war that needn't have been started....and failed to have its regulators do their jobs, in the energy and financial sectors...and then scooted off into the sundown....leaving someone else to clean up the mess they left behind.....

All of this debt that is now surfacing and accruing cannot all be laid at Obama's feet.... he inherited a phenomenal mess from probably the single most inept president this nation has ever suffered....and its up to him to try and correct it.

The pink tutu wearing "neo-cons" (aka hypocritical luddite) want everyone to believe that all the current problems in this country are the fault of the new president.... Man, those people are taking some wicked drugs, and their brains are seriously fried..... I know Limbaugh's brain is corroded to nothing.....the clod ingested enough illegal oxycontin and other pain killers to kill several bull elephants..... Hmmm, thats a groovy idea, get your "political intelligence () from a proving drug addict"....wait, he's the troll king of the ditto heads. And the jackass...is actually "un-American" enough to wish that the new President will fail...... thats ok for him though, over the years he's suckered enough dittoheads into listening that he's got some lucrative contracts and some money in the bank.....so why in the name of the Almighty would he give a damn about anyone or anything esle?

Whether or not this country even begins to survive depends on whether or not people, Americans of all parties decide to cut the crap and cohesively work to find a way out of this situation and stop playing partisan bs......

 

I go back to my original statement:


Saving ourselves from our debt by creating massive debt only works if you can eventually get yourself out from underneath the debt. Frankly, I just don't see that happening, and it seems to me that the current solution is like putting a band aid on a severed limb.

 

I liken it to shooting yourself in the foot, and then trying to use the gun to stop the bleeding.

You guys are having a great discussion here, and Rev.- you are displaying insight and intelligence in your argument. Please continue.

 

Well, since I have your permission.....:rofl:

 

If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given Tony Blair a set of inexpensive and useless (to Tony Blair's UK video formatting) DVDs, when Tony Blair had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive?

Can't think of anything? Don't worry.. He's done all this in 10 weeks -- so you'll have three years and nine-and-a-half months to come up with an answer.

 

I wished ****ing McCain would of won.. and continued Bush policies.. then we would of still heard the bitchin!! it was a lose, lose situtaion regardless who won according to most of you Truckers!!

 

Unfortunately, Bush (the younger) inherited a situation that simply had not come to a head yet. In fact, it started long before Bush (the elder) took office. The root of the problem dates back more than 30 years. It simply came to a "head" during the Bush (the younger) administration. Now, hope and pray that it doesn't take another 30+ years to straighten it out. It won't be straightened out until those in charge see the "ROOT" of the problem. Band-aids on the symptoms only increase the problem and make the problem worse. At this point, even a very serious letter-writing campaign to Congress and the Senate may not get the job done thw way it needs to be done. No one upstairs can see far enough to be able to look at the start of it all.

 

If Obama tried to take away your right of habeas corpus, would you let him?

If Obam launched an illegal and immoral war of aggression against a sovereign nation, based on false pretenses and forged documents, would you agree to that?

If Obam had inherited a federal budget that was running at a substantial surplus, and had turned that surplus into the largest budget deficit in peacetime history by giving enormous tax breaks to the wealthy, would you endorse that?

If Obama starts to add statements to new laws he signs, declaring that he, as President,, has the right to violate any section of that law, should he deem it in the national interest to do so, would you protest?

If Obama declares that if there is even a 1% chance American interests are in jeopardy somewhere in the world, unilateral American military interventions are justified, and this without conclusive evidence or extensive analysis, would you allow him to attack wherever he deems justified?

If Obama decides that he has the right to eavesdrop on citizens private conversations, or to spy on them in any manner of his choosing without a warrant, will you let him do it to you?

Will it be OK if Obama decides he is not bound by the Geneva Convention? If he authorizes the torture of prisoners? If he declares we are not bound by international law? (If we torture foreign prisoners, why not domestic ones? Let's get to the bottom of what that kidnapper did with the little girl via a waterboarding or two)

If Obama ever makes statements like the following, will you be embarrassed?

"He [Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi] said I want to make it very clear to you exactly what I intend to do and he talked about non-performing loans, the devaluation issue and regulatory reform and he placed equal emphasis on all three." -George W. Bush, who had meant to say "the deflation issue" rather than "the devaluation issue," and accidentally sent the Japanese Yen tumbling, Tokyo, Feb. 18, 2002

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it." -George W. Bush, July 27, 2001

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe - I believe what I believe is right." -George W. Bush, in Rome, July 22, 2001

"It is white." -George W. Bush, asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like, July 19, 2001

Dude, there is no way Obama can do the damage Bush did. What scares me is that there may be no way he can UN-do the damage Bush did.

 

Blah blah blah, you guys can go back and fourth forever with the 'he did this' and 'he did that' game, neither where or are any good. I do not think we have had a good president for a very long time, most if not all of the last handful of presidents have done nothing to improve the country, but in fact more so to damage it. And for those of you who want to try to say Clinton got the economy good, sorry, but no he didn't, the .com bubble did, coupled with all of the spendable cash flow via credit the banks gave out like candy.

 

what is pathetic, is that you all think that going out to vote actually means anything. the figure standing in office isnt really anything but a puppet. He has no real power, and is controlled by big business. Where do we get our 'news' from? CNN, FOX, etc....they brainwash us into beleiving what they want us to. Why do you always see nothing but gloom and doom on TV and over the internet??

this country lost having a REAL elected president on November 22, 1963. Every president since Johnson KNEW that their real boss was the military. Look how bad they wanted to go into Cuba during the missle crisis and wipe them out, if they HAD...we wouldnt be here today. And the earth would be nothing more than a burnt piece of coal floating in space.

So quit the b!tchin' about Obama this, and Osama that, and Biden whoever.......nobody gives a ***.