[Jackrabbit379]

That's crazy. I guess, cars don't pollute either.

[Malaki86]

Of course not. No gasoline burning vehicle pollutes - only diesels that power the equipment to keep the shelves full in all the Wal Marts.

[Part Time Dweller]

Cars don't idle for 10-12 hours a day, most times unnecessarily.

You can thank the BBR's that never shut their trucks off, no matter how nice it was out for the idle laws. Maybe if they had taken the time to turn the key off, there wouldn't be a need for the laws.

[Windwalker]

Originally Posted by Mackman

were can you buy just the sticker??? Thats really all you would need.

Originally Posted by belpre122

Copy the one Belpre posted, print it off the computer onto a gummed sheet, and stick it on your truck.....
:lol2::lol2::lol2::clap::clap::clap:

Or catch Bel sleeping and take that one.....:eek2:

[ssoutlaw]

Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller

Cars don't idle for 10-12 hours a day, most times unnecessarily.

You can thank the BBR's that never shut their trucks off, no matter how nice it was out for the idle laws. Maybe if they had taken the time to turn the key off, there wouldn't be a need for the laws.

Ya right!!!!!

[Jackrabbit379]

I don't blame them. Well, it's one thing if it's nice out. Wind blowing through the truck winders, and it's in the 60s. That's not bad. On the other hand, if you are in Texas, or anywhere in the hot south, it's nice to keep an air conditioner running. My electric bill is pretty steep in the summer, but I be darn if I'm gonna suffer.

[Windwalker]

Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller

Cars don't idle for 10-12 hours a day, most times unnecessarily.

You can thank the BBR's that never shut their trucks off, no matter how nice it was out for the idle laws. Maybe if they had taken the time to turn the key off, there wouldn't be a need for the laws.

I don't imagine you've had any thought that the mouse might have had a bit extra Uumph in that swing, did you?

Let's see... You're a local driver with a day-cab.... Sleep in your own bed at night, not in the Don't run in the cold climates in winter, or the south in the summer. Must be nice. Next time your truck won't start because it's too cold to get the engine to spin over, you might want to see if I'm there with my chain. I lost count how many trucks I pull started last winter because the oil was just too thick for the starter to move. Oh, yeah... Hope your a/c dies on you during the "DOG DAYS OF SUMMER". You can put a blanket down under the trailer and try to sleep there because the cab is too warm.

As a matter of curiousity... Has anybody ever given any thought to the damage down to the crank and bearings during starting? Oil pressure at 0, rotating speed very slow, metal actually touching metal... Not as bad as having the bearings and journals dry, but it does "wipe" the surfaces of the metals against each other, and does shorten the life of the engine. Not to mention the brush life in the starter.

[Jackrabbit379]

Originally Posted by Windwalker

As a matter of curiousity... Has anybody ever given any thought to the damage down to the crank and bearings during starting? Oil pressure at 0, rotating speed very slow, metal actually touching metal... Not as bad as having the bearings and journals dry, but it does "wipe" the surfaces of the metals against each other, and does shorten the life of the engine. Not to mention the brush life in the starter.

I've heard that "newer" motors can start/shut-off better than older motors-that it doesn't hurt them to do so. I call it a bunch of bull. A motor cranks the same, whether it's 20 years old, or just came out of the factory.

[Part Time Dweller]

Windywalker, I did run a sleeper truck for years, and as a matter of fact, I was the 1st one in the fleet to have aux heating for the winter climate here. I am talking in 96, when it was unheard of. I also shut my truck off when it wasn't necessary for survival. All I am saying is many of the present idle laws were brought about by those who never shut their trucks off and idled needlessly, even when the laws were being talked about. They could have shown some give and take by voluntarily cutting down on idle time, but didn't. It didn't fit the Last American Cowboy/ Convoy mentality that many Dwellers have.

As far as you pulling my truck when it is cold, I wouldn't worry about that too much. Our trucks are kept in nice heated buildings so they are ready to go at a moments notice and don't sit out for any length of time.


As far as my AC not working, the most it would be is for a day, and that would only happen if the required part wasn't in stock at our shop to fix it when I got in, and again, I don't see ever having a need to sleep under a trailer like some homeless stew bum. But hey, to each their own, if that is your thing go for it. :thumbsup:

[Phantom433a]

They say that a truck in L.A. puts out cleaner air than it takes in......maybe we should get 1,000 trucks to sit in the armpit of California and idle for a week to clean up the air.:clap: