As a newbie looking at getting into OTR as my next career, I was wondering about the 'logistics' of the HOS rules. I read them, but wonder about actual application.

Many jobs say 'out for 2-3 weeks' so in there somewhere you need to take the 36 hours off .. twice probably. What do you do? Get a motel .. live in a truckstop for a day and a half? What if you're not near a truckstop or Hwy Rest Area? Can you stay in a Rest Area that long? Especially if you're not at a terminal when that time hits.

I get the 10 hour rests .. I think .. they're just your sleep period after a days work.

Just wondering ..

Thanks!

 

Well, if you only work a little over 8 hours a day, you will never need tot ake 36 off. But then again, you wont get many loads delivered on time doing that. You just have to pace yourself. For example, say you work 10 hours on day 1...at midnight following your 8th day, you get those 11 back. So if you're worried you only have 3 hours left to work,, you actually have 13 come that midnight, because those previous 7 days roll off.

But say you DO have to take a 36hr restart, if you have a good DM, you will take it at home under load (if possible). If not...say you live in OK City, OK, and you're in New York, and will run out of hours that say, well then you will just find a nice truck stop along your route, and take your 36.

As far as your 10 hours rest, all 10 dont have to be on line 2, they can me a mix of lines 1 and 2, BUT they all have to be concurrent. You can be in the sleeper doing your paperwork (yeah yeah i know technically that is line 4, but that is how you save your 70...dont waste hours) or checking e-mail..then 2 hours later run into the truck stop and take a shower and grab a nice sit down hot meal...then that would be on line 1.

Sometimes your loads will dictate where you're going to take that rest. But like i said, if you have a good DM....s/he will route your loads back toward home.

 

Anyone want to bet what BigDiesel will say? :rofl:

BTW.... it's a thirty FOUR hour reset.

 

You never need to take 36 off. Ever.:thumbsdown:

Perhaps you can explain how you can get 11 hours back from having worked 10 hours 8 days ago.....:thumbsdown:

How exactly do 7 days roll off at midnight?:thumbsdown:

Why would anyone need to take 36 hours off?:thumbsdown:

Wrong again. You can split your sleeper berth time into two segments, as long as one of the two is at least 8 hours, and the other is more than 2.:thumbsdown:

Riiiight.:thumbsdown:

Is there anything you actually know regarding the HOS rules?

 

obviously since i drive, i know what the 70/8 or 60/7 rules are. can you not go one fukin day without the need to prove how big a dumb fuk u are? once again you feel the need to hijack a thread, and turn it into a fuking pissing contest. The guy was asking a simple question. How do your hours roll off? quite simple you horses ass.....you know that row of numbers you keep track of? #1 - #7? and then you total them? and then you subtract that from 70...and then you get the magic number of how many hours left available? well the next day, at midnight, the hours in your #1 spot 'roll off'.

bet you're going to need me to explain what double clutching or 'floating' is next.

 

let me pull a Rev penis on Rev penis.......first of all you NEVER have to take more than 10 hours off....split or not. One segment is 8...one segment is 2....not MORE than two. and another thing....8 MUST be taken in the sleeper...the other 2...can be taken in the sleeper or off duty. man, dont you know anything about split sleeper?

 

Smashburn, you will realize who to take GOOD CONSTRUCTIVE help from, and who to ignore. I'd apologize for Rev....but i'll let him speak for himself. That makes me remember another thread with the title of "TOOLS"....maybe Rev. should be listed as one to have on hand....since it is obvious he knows it all, and he is a "super trucker", sure would be good to have in a pinch, ya know? ..... a good....TOOL

 

Thanks Kevin ..

I assume what the Rev was saying, in his oh so subtle way, was that most of you guys don't end up running into the 36 hours deal ... the hours just don't work out that way .. i.e. 7 - 11 hour days in a row, etc..

Thanks,
Steve

 

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Kevin...Your failing to inform Mr. Smashburn (I'm wondering...is this Steve Booth??) that YOU are a 6 week wonder, with all of your driving experience. You have such a good handle on the Hours of Serfice regulations, that you call the re-set period a 36 hour re-set, when in fact it is a 34 hour re-set.

You fail to inform Mr. Smashburn that the only companies which use the 60\7 rule are "Local" operators, or that as an OTR driver, Mr. Smashburn will operate under the 70\8 rule, where-by the eighth day drops off each 24 hour period. If Mr. Smashburn's math skills are lacking, the DOT will happily give him instruction at ever scale house.

It's a 14 hour work day, of which 11 hours of those 14 can be used for driving. After using a full 14 hour work period, you MUST take a full 10 hour break. You can spit break your 10 hour rest period, but NOT if you use up the 14 hour work period. When using the split break method, you may take an 8 hour all sleeper berth break, (say you work for 1 hour then drive for 5 hours, for a total of 6 hours on duty), you may then continue you driving, for 6 hours, then you may take a 2 hour break. After completeing the 2 hour break, you may then drive for another 6 hours, after which time you must take a 10 hour break before drivng again. (You can work all the hours you want after the 2 hour break, you can only drive during the first 6 hours immediately AFTER the 2 HOUR BREAK.

At least....That is how Miller Safety described the use of the split berth break to me. I just take 10 hour breaks. To heck with trying to keep up with the math. Work 10 hours then break 10 hours. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Now...Mr. Smashburn, you can take all of your ques from Mr. Kevin. Just don't cry on anybody's shoulders when you get put OOS for logging violations. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Thanks Stan .. appreciate the clarification. The name is Steve Mashburn, Woodstock GA .. the smashburn handle just stuck over the years. Probably not a good one for a driver

Look, I'm just not wanting to get in a bitchfest with anyone. Kevin -did- answer my question .. he may have been 'off' a little in the answer .. but the Rev did not even attempt to answer my question .. just bitch out Kevin. I thanked Kevin for his effort as I do you. I'm just trying to get a insight into the 'real' world of trucking .. since I really don't expect it from the schools or the recruiters. You know, day to day stuff.

A career change is a big deal, especially to this career. Just want to be comfortable with my decision before I drop my dimes on training, etc ...

Thanks,

Steve