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Old 11-10-2008, 12:02 AM
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. . incompetence of .39 cpm Swift "drivers" . . can't you get anything right?
My bad dawg......:lol:
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:42 AM
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Here's a local news clip. They say it was raining hard at the time. It appears to be a three axle trailer which adds a little bit of weight to the equation. The tractor experienced some serious devastation . . quite creepy.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/s...ves/153693.asp
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:54 AM
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[QUOTE=cdswans;422578]Here's a local news clip. They say it was raining hard at the time. It appears to be a three axle trailer which adds a little bit of weight to the equation. The tractor experienced some serious devastation . . quite creepy.

i saw the big burn on the asphalt the next morning.
that fella was right about the torrential rain. earlier that evening i was northbound in the grand mound -tuwater construction zone empty going 50 mph and holding on tight. saw a volvo wagon that hydroplaned off.
next morning at the mill i heard cb talk of dead trainee and guessed which company that would be.
4 inches of rain at shelton airport and 10 inches on sw slopes of olympic mountains.
i still see that lil recruiter rag that says " after 6 months you can be a level 1 mentor and train newer drivers"
yes i have hit deer,a huge black cow, and lots of varmints. i have had evry mishap not requiring a police report since i graduated from the not really swift independent contractor cdl school in 1995. got 1, 4 wheel speed violation and an overweight but wont be online for a protracted battle cuz i got a life
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:27 PM
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Many posters have noted the trainer was sleeping. The articles posted do not state that, only that he was in the sleeper.

In the sleeper does not equal sleeping.

Yes, the trainer likely should have been in the passenger seat, but this little group does not know if he was asleep.
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:36 PM
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Many posters have noted the trainer was sleeping. The articles posted do not state that, only that he was in the sleeper.

In the sleeper does not equal sleeping.

Yes, the trainer likely should have been in the passenger seat, but this little group does not know if he was asleep.
It doesn't matter. The FMCSA regs state he was supposed to be in the passenger seat.
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:40 PM
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It doesn't matter. The FMCSA regs state he was supposed to be in the passenger seat.
No, having the facts straight does matter.
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:47 PM
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So if the trainer was sleeping, does it somehow make it "illegaler" than if he wasn't?
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:01 PM
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So if the trainer was sleeping, does it somehow make it "illegaler" than if he wasn't?
I don't know about that. Haven't thought about it.

In the sleeper does not equal sleeping. Nothing else I want to comment on, really.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:26 AM
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It doesn't matter. The FMCSA regs state he was supposed to be in the passenger seat.

There are no FMCSA regs that state that the Trainer has to be in the passenger seat when the Trainee is driving.

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Old 11-12-2008, 01:31 AM
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It doesn't matter. The FMCSA regs state he was supposed to be in the passenger seat.

Please post where it says in the regulations that a ...licensed...cdl holder...must have...a trainer sitting in the jump seat for their full time on duty driving...IT DOESN'T .
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