Belpre, you seem to be alluding to the driver being asleep, do you know some hard facts on this from the police that nobody else knows about yet? Who's to say he wasn't playing on the QC or on the cellphone? Love how you slam the OTR carriers about this driver possibly cooking the books and being asleep when nothing has been said yet.

 

Logical, statistical deduction will prove me correct, yet again Mr. Ford.

Wager?

 

Do you drive? If you do, do you not see the speeding, distracted and innattentive Drivers that I see, every single day?

Belpre122's speculation is likely based on his personal observations . . the very same insane behaviors I witness, every single day.

The LEO's didn't allude to a "terribly unfortunate medical condition" that would explain this all away. They alluded to charges which I suspect will be filed, forthwith.

 

"If one desires a change, one must be that change before that change can take place." - Gita Bellin

http://www.charlotte.com/115/story/714618.html

 

Mr. belpre122 let me ask you a couple of questions.

1) Do only OTR truck drivers have accidents? Or do local truck drivers also have accidents?

2) What percentage of truck/auto accidents are the truck drivers found to be at fault?

Have you seen the results of EOBRs on accidents that Europe and England have found? And they have had them for years.

I might also say if EOBRs are mandated there will be ways to defeat them just like we could beat the recording tack back in the old days.

kc0iv

 

Patronization is a common method of chiding, used to incite the simpleton. Not for Belpre.

Answer your own rhetorical drivel.

 

timba I do drive, locally, and it burns me up to hear someone like belpre piling on when the exact details have not been released. belpre has it out for most all OTR drivers and every chance he gets he goes and bashes them just like here. If you re-read my post you simply re-stated what I said about the driver being distracted more so than belpre immediately assuming the driver fell asleep because he is OTR and with a "coolie."

belpre, kc asked a legit question, stop showing ignorance and answer #1 or are you afraid that it will prove how foolish your drivel actually sounds yet again? oh wait, that's right yes locals do have wrecks to but there is a perfectly good explanation for it, right?

 

You alway condemn the OTR truck drivers all I did was ask valid questions.

You might not want to drive OTR, which is fine, but to condemn ALL OTR is just plain wrong.

Just like your stupid cartoon. I'm sure I have more miles (years) driving than you and I have NEVER driven 100 hours, in a week, and logged 70 hours.

I've also driven local, regional, and OTR and found each has their advantages and disadvantages. As the old saying goes -- "different stroke for different folks."

kc0iv

 

OK Belpre...Here you go, making a senseless traffic accident, into a speal against OTR truck drivers.

First and fore most, as a truck driver whom has much more "local" driving experience than you "yourself" possess..or even your vaunted "CFM"..Accidents like the one posted here, happen just as often to local drivers, as they do with OTR drivers. Accidents like this involve dump truck drivers, flatbed drivers, equipment haulers, and yes, even tanker drivers.

SO jump off the high horse you have attached your saddle to.

I watched the news clip, where the 4-wheeler driver you quoted; "Frank Steinhoff, 27, said he was driving next to the semi, which he estimated was going about 75 mph. The truck didn't slow as it approached the stopped traffic, he said." , the part of the clip you left out, was where the young man stated that he was about to change lanes to be in front of the truck, but decided against it just moments before traffic came to a stop. Lucky choice by the way for that young man. Instead of witnessing a terrible accident, he would have been a fatality, in that accident.

As for your desire to have electronic on board recorders on the trucks.....they are already there! Missouri State Police have most likely already had the ECM from that Century removed, and the information it contains as to the truck's speed, the drivers shifting habits, the number of times the truck had stopped in the previous 8 hours, as well as how often the driver activated his brakes and used his clutch...all that information is available.

Every truck made since 1991 has an ECM, and every ECM made since 1997 has the capability to record all of the trucks operational perameters. Couple the ECM with the Qualcomm, and it has the ability to track where you were, when you did certain "actions". And just so you know...95% of OTR Fleet trucks have ECM's that are "actively" recording everything the driver does. The truck involved in that accident looks like a "former" JBHunt truck...so the chances are "95%" that the ECM was recording all of that drivers activities.

This accident was posted on the "ANYTHING" forum, yesterday, before Bigtimba posted it here on this thread. Yesterday I posted a comment stating that I felt that the accident was the result of inattentive driving...and that this driver and others like him, are the reason "Truck Drivers" have such a bad reputation.

And again...On the "Local" side of trucking. I know numerous tanker drivers, whom have driving habits just as bad as any OTR driver. I know one driver, whom hit a car stopped in traffic much like this accident involves, whom was not ticketed, was not fired, and didn't even receive days off, for that accident. That particular driver was travelling on the right-center lane, approaching the I-405 interchange at South Center, in Renton WA, when a car switched lanes in front of him then stopped, to jump into the exiting traffic lanes. The tanker hit that car hard enough to bounce it off of 3 of the cars sitting on the outter exit lane, send it spinning across the 4 through lanes of I-5 traffic, and up the center slope of the medium. The coliseon was such, that the hood of the truck was knocked loose, flipped up into the air, and came down between the cab and the trucks fixd cargo tank. Luckinly though injuries to the stopped cars were severe in some cases, nobody died.
Several weeks later, local management was returning from the airport, with corporate management in the car, and they happened to follow that particular driver off I-5, and down to the company's gas terminal on Harbor Island, there in Seattle. Those managers watchd as that driver failed to stop for not ONE but Three seperate rail crossings, and at one crossing, even made the trailer axles "catch air". This just weeks after that driver was "cleared" of any wrong doing in the accident I just described! Bob the driver, was loading his truck to make his last delivery for the day, when they (the local & corporate managers) walked out to the rack, and fired him on the spot.

Of the 65 drivers at the termianl at that time, I would have placed 15 others in "His" driving catagory----BAD!!

Just because you drive "Local", it does not mean you "Drive Better". Just because you driver tanker, it does not mean you "Drive Safer". Safe driving is an individual CHOICE. One each of us must make each and every day.


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Bravo! A tip of the hat to you, sir.

Your point is the whole point of this thread. Driving like an idiot is a choice just as much choosing to drive safely is. It has to be a conscious choice. New Drivers need to be taught the right way and that the right way is the only way.