Idle +Speed Reductions = Driver Gets It in the SHORTS!

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Old 06-22-2008, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TomB985
My father has been working in the logistics and warehousing industry for 30 years...and he believes that long haul, coast to coast trucking's days are numbered because of the efficiencies of rail transportation....
Listen to your father!! The only difference between your father and myself, is the wording.

Long haul, short haul. If irregular-route coolie OTR trucking is involved, it is over. Too much waste. Inherently inefficient. Burn job for the driver (CPM scam).

Short and medium haul trucking will not only survive, but flourish. But not in the current configuration.

The driver will only benefit from these changes. Bye bye Coolie Carriers
 
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Originally Posted by belpre122
Originally Posted by TomB985
My father has been working in the logistics and warehousing industry for 30 years...and he believes that long haul, coast to coast trucking's days are numbered because of the efficiencies of rail transportation....
Listen to your father!! The only difference between your father and myself, is the wording.

Long haul, short haul. If irregular-route coolie OTR trucking is involved, it is over. Too much waste. Inherently inefficient. Burn job for the driver (CPM scam).

Short and medium haul trucking will not only survive, but flourish. But not in the current configuration.

The driver will only benefit from these changes. Bye bye Coolie Carriers
This is very true.I drove local for marten until i left earlier this month.During the last few months,Id say I the amount of loads I picked up locally and took to the rail too be shipped across country on train, about doubled towards the end of my employment.Alot of OTR drivers are completly clueless or just dont get it.They view any driver who has something too say against OTR driving as simply a disgruntled driver.I made a post about this a view weeks ago,short-medium length haul is where trucking is headed,all this OTR coast to coast nonsense is going to be over.All you have to do is look,and you will see how these coolie carriers are pushing and advertising alot more for there "regional" fleets.This isnt because theyre trying to cater to drivers,its because its a sign of the times,with fuel and driver inefficiencies.And look for a major paycut,when youre FORCED to go regional,the miles wont be what they are for you now,which to most isnt much anyway.
 
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I put "Coolie Carrier" in google, and this thread came up first.
what the hell is a coolie carrier? And did a coolie carrier run over belpre122's dog or something?
 
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Originally Posted by Phreddo
I put "Coolie Carrier" in google, and this thread came up first.
what the hell is a coolie carrier? And did a coolie carrier run over belpre122's dog or something?
LOL Phreddo.

All of you doubters out there take note. Coolie Carrier is now an official term.

A "coolie" is a reference to a "Chinese laborer" as in the ones that were imported to build the railroads in the 1800's. They worked for pennies a day and a bowl of rice and the occasional fish-head. Worked like slaves for nothing....and were treated the same way. Definitely not a refrigerated truck.
You can fill in the rest?
 
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Originally Posted by Chasing Daylight

I can't argue with that. But the anti-idle laws aren't the silliest environmental laws on the books, I think it's important to remember that. It's also important to remember that at the core of the environmental movement, amongst the true believers, people no longer matter. People are the cause of problems, never the solution. People are the devil, as it were, that all mass movements need to grow and sustain themselves. To think that change is likely to come in an effort to accomodate the needs or comfort of humans is to not understand the environmental movement.
I could not agree with you more. Mind you, these are the people we deal with on the road everyday. Two parents, two SUVs, two jobs, one person per SUV, ten trips a week each to earn the money to take their seperate SUVs in two different directions to shop and keep the kids entertained for the weekend. Those environmentalists.

The "stow my mountain bike up in the roof rack and never ride it" environmentalists; or the " . . then drive it 600 miles to Moab and ride it there" environmentalists.

The short attention span, instant gratification "it better be in the store when I want it" environmentalists. The "I support the truckers except when I'm trying to pass or being passed by one" environmentalists. The Schnieder "cleanest, greenest fleet in the land" environmentalists.

Remarkably, I've only been to California once since the newer, tougher idling laws were enacted, idling openly and conspicuously the whole time I was parked. Noone said a word. Have things changed? Maine, New York, Atlanta, Dallas, Phoenix and probably a few places that have laws I don't even know about, idling openly and conspicuously.

The truth is, if and when they/we/you stop to think about it, idling laws are ridiculously unfair, bordering on cruel and largely unenforcable at least until someone comes up with an alternative. Ultimately, the alternative, in what ever form it may take, will have to be legislated.
 
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Uturn asked:

At $2.XX per gallon it has been estimated that an APU would pay for itself in around 6 months to a year. At $5 per gallon how quickly will it pay for itself?
I'll take a stab at this difficult math problem!! Let's see, assuming we could say that first figure was an average of $2.50.... hmmm... $5 just happens to be DOUBLE that, so..... hmmm..... HALF of 6 months to a year is..... let me think..... uh..... 3 to 6 months!!!

Did I WIN???? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, I'm sorry.... was that a rhetorical question? 8)
 
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heavyhaulerss said:

one also has to consider that an apu does not have to run all the time.
Then, neither would the TRUCK.

a good amount of time , a/c or heat is not needed.
Then, you wouldn't need to idle the TRUCK, either.

if you only ran the apu when it was really needed, it would take longer to pay for itself.
I can't see why! The only thing that affects how quickly the APU pays for itself.... is how much truck idling is reduced and the price of diesel. (fuel saved.)

If the APU is programmable to cut in and out by a thermostat, that is even BETTER, since in most cases, drivers cannot wake up and turn the truck on and off to keep pace with cab temperatures.

I admit I know very little about APUs, but I just don't see the logic in your statement, unless of course, you meant that NEITHER of them needed to run all the time.
 
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Originally Posted by belpre122

California has the world's 6th largest economy fellow BBRs!
They WON'T have when us "coolie carriers" refuse to enter their state to haul away their goods to Eastern markets!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well.... I GUESS they could hire a bunch of LTL slaves (glorified lumpers) to haul the stuff to Arizona where they'll have to build huge warehouses for us to get our loads from! :wink:

Might be a good time to start buying up some of that desert outside of Needles and Blythe! :lol: :lol:
 
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I guess i haven't been mistreated badly enough by my company yet.
but i don't know what my company would qualify as. Are tankers included under "coolie?"

As far as idling goes, Schneider taught me to be very stingy with the idle, and I've found that, during moderate climates, i only have to run the truck if i've been sitting long enough to drain the batteries ie 24 hr layover or something.

The worst part is when i go to sleep and it's warm, and the temerature drops overnight and i wake up at 4AM freezing my ass off. I have some sort of arctic sleeping bag, but if it's warm when i get in it, I'm sweating my buns off at first.

My basic rule is if it's below freezing I idle the truck while sleeping in it. I rarely get in enough heat that i need to run the AC, usually opening the window and running a fan gets me by. fortunately i have one of those windows with a screen, as the holes in that little vent thing allow mosquitos in.

And california, i would love to see how long they last with only electric trains coming in and out of the state.
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Phreddo
I guess i haven't been mistreated badly enough by my company yet.
but i don't know what my company would qualify as. Are tankers included under "coolie?"

As far as idling goes, Schneider taught me to be very stingy with the idle, and I've found that, during moderate climates, i only have to run the truck if i've been sitting long enough to drain the batteries ie 24 hr layover or something.

The worst part is when i go to sleep and it's warm, and the temerature drops overnight and i wake up at 4AM freezing my ass off. I have some sort of arctic sleeping bag, but if it's warm when i get in it, I'm sweating my buns off at first.

My basic rule is if it's below freezing I idle the truck while sleeping in it. I rarely get in enough heat that i need to run the AC, usually opening the window and running a fan gets me by. fortunately i have one of those windows with a screen, as the holes in that little vent thing allow mosquitos in.

And california, i would love to see how long they last with only electric trains coming in and out of the state.
If you work for Schneider then yes your company is coolie. Coolie isnt about what type of truck you drive. It is all in how you get paid. Most OTR outfits(99%) of them are coolie outfits. 35 cpm is coolie. No lay over pay. Not getting paid for waiting time at docks. etc etc etc. get my point.
 
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