Idle +Speed Reductions = Driver Gets It in the SHORTS!
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If companies have not invested in APU's that is there problem.. They had 2 yrs of knowing that fuel prices would go up. anyone who can read would know this was in the future. But yet these comapnies will open new terminals, pay out monies to share holeders, buy new trucks, bonus for terminal managers or CEO's.
Also they all know who are the non performers for loading or unloading. They all knew if they send you into and area and there is not freight coming out its dead time or sit time, meaning charge customer for this.. Put some thought into planning.. Rather then hounding driver on idle %.. They just take the easy way out.. meaning lack of thought! Do they go home and conserve energy? Not! Do they drive 5mph slower leaving work? Not! Do imates have AC, Heat and running water.. Oh free eats and medical?? Yes, they do... There will be a time when the driver gets the ball back... And that time will be soon!!! :twisted: :wink:
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If companies have not invested in APU's that is there problem.. They had 2 yrs of knowing that fuel prices would go up. anyone who can read would know this was in the future.
But yet these comapnies will open new terminals, pay out monies to share holeders, buy new trucks, bonus for terminal managers or CEO's.
Do they go home and conserve energy? Not! Do they drive 5mph slower leaving work? Not!
Do imates have AC, Heat and running water.. Oh free eats and medical?? Yes, they do...
There will be a time when the driver gets the ball back... And that time will be soon!!!
Dude, driving a truck is a job, just like any other job. You hire on to a company to do the job they hire you to do. If you don't like it, don't work there. If you don't like driving, then get off the road and do something else. Trucking is a job, not a lifestyle. Deal with it.
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They had 2 yrs of knowing that fuel prices would go up.
$10 million plus dollars to upgrade a 1000 truck fleet with APU's is not a drop in the bucket
In addition, there are enough issues with enough states regarding APUs that it's far from a sure thing.
The smart companies have taken a wait and see aproach and the jury is still out.
APU's or other means of keeping a comfortable temp level in the sleeper of a truck for up to 36 hours have numerous benefits. A well rested driver is a safer driver. Less stress for the driver Less friction between the driver and the company Less wear on the truck's main engine. Longer engine life. Less maintenance on the truck's main engine. Lower fuel bills. Higher trade in values. Less pollution. etc. In short it is an investment that holds gains in economic, human and environmental areas. At $2.XX per gallon it has been estimated that an APU would pay for itself in around 6 months to a year. At $5 per gallon how quickly will it pay for itself?
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How many companies do you know that have gone to APU's? I'm talking about the bigger ones. You can probably count the number of those on one hand. As far as I know, Martin just put them on some of their fleet, to run tests. Crete is putting them on a small percentage of their fleet, also test them out. A number of other companies are looking into them, but have not yet stepped into the water. Why?
Fact is, if APU's were the savior of the industry, they'd be on every single truck rolling right now, period, from the smallest fleet to the largest. They're not on those trucks for a very good reason...the jury is still out and it's still a very big gamble. And right now, as volitale as the industry is, no one is gambling.
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
How many companies do you know that have gone to APU's? I'm talking about the bigger ones. You can probably count the number of those on one hand. As far as I know, Martin just put them on some of their fleet, to run tests. Crete is putting them on a small percentage of their fleet, also test them out. A number of other companies are looking into them, but have not yet stepped into the water. Why?
Fact is, if APU's were the savior of the industry, they'd be on every single truck rolling right now, period, from the smallest fleet to the largest. They're not on those trucks for a very good reason...the jury is still out and it's still a very big gamble. And right now, as volitale as the industry is, no one is gambling. The style of irregular-route coolie OTR trucking is the problem and is quickly coming to an end. The inherent inefficiencies in this flawed idea are causing the implosion of the irregular-route coolie OTR industry as we watch.
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Correct TF. After giving the matter further thought, I had to agree with Beetle's explanation regarding Crete's hesitation to make the "full-blown" APU investment. APUs are simply not the answer. Just a very expensive band-aid to this industry emergency.
However..... :wink:
The style of irregular-route coolie OTR trucking is the problem and is quickly coming to an end. The inherent inefficiencies in this flawed idea are causing the implosion of the irregular-route coolie OTR industry as we watch.
Interestingly enough, Belpre, as much as you resent the "coolie carriers", the LTL companies rely on and will survive because of the short to medium haul carriers. What little warehousing is done right now, it's those carriers you resent that are bringing it to them. That marriage isn't likely to dissolve any time soon, either.
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Good post(s) TF...Couldnt agree with you more. (sounds like the OP needed to vent)
Just fyi...Werner had begun the installation process of APUs. Just got mine last week. Im figuring at around $5 a gallon, it wouldnt take long to pay them off, and I got to assume they are getting them at a very good rate. Also would assume they are going to stay on the truck when the truck goes to fleet sales, thats just speculation though.
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What about companies that don't buy new trucks?
My company has 63 company trucks on the road. The newest truck in our fleet is a 2005 and was purchased in January. So, multiply $8,000 x 63 and see how much you come up with.
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I think, since more and more shippers DONT offer the long haul anymore it might go all the way like p+d plus linehaul. Like yellow, pitt ohio old dominion and more. After I switch my trailers with another driver he drives home, I drive home. We get rid of the loads and the trucks are parked.No more idle trucks for a driver who needs his 10h break. One of the last discussions I had at Shaffer (after I complained about all those shorts runs) I was told shippers try to keep the length of haul now under 500 miles if possible. If that is true there wont be much need for OTR trucking anymore........?
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Originally Posted by unclehotte
I think, since more and more shippers DONT offer the long haul anymore it might go all the way like p+d plus linehaul. Like yellow, pitt ohio old dominion and more. After I switch my trailers with another driver he drives home, I drive home. We get rid of the loads and the trucks are parked.No more idle trucks for a driver who needs his 10h break. One of the last discussions I had at Shaffer (after I complained about all those shorts runs) I was told shippers try to keep the length of haul now under 500 miles if possible. If that is true there wont be much need for OTR trucking anymore........?
Good riddance coolie carriers.
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