Talk about a crackdown on idle time
#41
04-20-2008, 06:43 AM
Re: I concur with . .
I'm on an involuntary reset, so I did your homework for you . .
The most surprising finding was that even I can be wrong.
Originally Posted by bigtimba
. . the others; 50% isn't a driver problem, that's a Werner problem.
Try the OSHA website and see what they have to say about it. (I'd do it myself but it sounds like you have more free time than I do.) If you can't find it, call them. There have got to be some guidlines, ie acceptable range of temperatures or equipment requirements for extreme temperatures. Report back with your findings. 1910.5(b) None of the standards in this part shall apply to working conditions of employees with respect to which Federal agencies other than the Department of Labor, or State agencies acting under section 274 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, as amended (42 U.S.C. 2021), exercise statutory authority to prescribe or enforce standards or regulations affecting occupational safety or health. As in DOT. OSHA standards don't apply to us. Try telling that to the guy who hands you your safety glasses, hardhat and respirator the next time you visit a mine . . I looked through the entire index and didn't see anything related to temperature, so it's a moot point. I'll give the DOT site a quick run through to see if they have anything to say about it . .
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#42
04-20-2008, 07:33 AM
Finally! An example of "smaller government"!
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...ection_toc=768
Links to FMCSA Part 399: Employee Safety and Health Standards It came as a bit of a surprise that there is only one standard . . and it has to do with . .
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#44
04-20-2008, 10:02 AM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Could someone please explain to me in newbie terms about the "turbo" and why it needs to cool off, and why with the engine running?
TIA Running at idle lets the turbo spin slower, but oil keeps moving, so it cools down. Then engine can be shut off without turbo damage.
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#45
04-20-2008, 11:00 AM
Originally Posted by Malaki86
But idling in upstate New York when it's -5f IS optional?
When my APU was put on, my company reset the ECU on my engine, taking away the ability to idle. Theoretically, the APU's supposed to keep the engine warm...but I do NOT trust it as far as sub-zero temps...I expect to get towed a couple times next winter...... Yeah, in that weather, I wouldn't shut the truck down either...
#46
04-20-2008, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Whammo
Could someone please explain to me in newbie terms about the "turbo" and why it needs to cool off, and why with the engine running?
Running at idle lets the turbo spin slower, but oil keeps moving, so it cools down. Then engine can be shut off without turbo damage. Also to add to this, when an engine is running hard, the oil and engine components are hot. To cool the turbo and the other engine components down the engine should be allowed to idle until oil temps come down to lower temps. A few minutes will suffice. This allows the turbo and other components of the engine to cool before shutdown, extending times before a repair / replacement is needed. :arrow:
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#47
04-20-2008, 11:31 AM
> It's a numbers game . .
. . let's say the top 10% of heavy idlers do burn company cash unnecessarily. So, the company sends the "We'll fire you . . " message to the top 20 - 30 - 40% with the hope that an aggragate reduction will bring the fleet into compliance. A few drivers will get canned, many more will endure a greater sacrifice and some manager will earn his bonus.
The majority won, democracy was preserved and the casualty count was relatively small. Right?
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#48
04-20-2008, 12:49 PM
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I totally understood what your were getting at, just figured I would lighten up all the other stuff! Dang, a guy cannot even try to be funny anymore!
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
country, your a riot with the smartas comments back :lol: Sorry if I wasn't clear enough for you but Tom knew what I was getting at.
Gotcha Tom, I shake my head at the one's who complain how their idle % is so high, yet they refuse to turn the truck off when they shutdown for their 10 hours, barring some medical condition. They seem to not understand the problem is, go figure......
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#50
04-20-2008, 02:03 PM
An interesting clause in the Maine law is that there is a $500 fine for any SHIPPER or CONSIGNEE that causes trucks to need to idle excessively. Geared towards the creeping line type problem. Rather than fine the driver the law is trying to get at the root of the problem, I thought that was interesting.
By the way with the new Maine law you are exempt if you are in the sleeper berth anytime.
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