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#31

02-14-2008, 12:44 PM

DaveP

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Nice open mind you have. I expected nothing less. You're right, I'm a gun nut on the verge of the next mass shooting. :roll: Discussion over.

*snicker*... why did I expect a person who actively seeks schemes and dreams of confrontation with firearms to "save people" to do something like have a simple discussion? keep dreaming Rambo. :roll:

Simple discussion? With you?

People trying to have a discussion with you is like arguing with a drunk.

A waste of time.

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02-14-2008, 12:51 PM

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Nice open mind you have. I expected nothing less. You're right, I'm a gun nut on the verge of the next mass shooting. :roll: Discussion over.

*snicker*... why did I expect a person who actively seeks schemes and dreams of confrontation with firearms to "save people" to do something like have a simple discussion? keep dreaming Rambo. :roll:

Simple discussion? With you?

People trying to have a discussion with you is like arguing with a drunk.

A waste of time.

And this is your second ape like response directly to/at me an not the topic? go figure... lightweight

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#33

02-15-2008, 10:22 AM

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If im in my cab and someone approaches me day or night who knows anymore what they want.The world i full of sickos.Id rather have a gun and not need it then need it and NOT have it.To each their own.Its a constitutional right to have one.

In certain cases..but not all. You have a right to free speech also, and it does not mean that you can yell "fire" in a crowded theater...

I guess I just pity people who feel the need to be armed 24/7.

It is not a matter of need or want. The main difference between the views of gun owner and a non gun owner are simple. the main being knowledge. I am a gun owner and agree with the constitution that it is a god given right.

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The 2nd amendment states to protect the right to bare arms.

it doesn't state "to grant the right" this means that the right for man to have guns was established well before our country was even formed. (this has recently been backed up in a court of law) I will carry a wrench on my truck in case my brakes need adjusting. I will carry an air gage just in case to check my tire pressure and I would carry a gun just in case i would need it. To many gun owners it is nothing more than a tool with a specific purpose. it isn't some magical contraption that spits out death randomly. There are very few instances when a crime was committed by a person who legally owns a handgun. The laws are in place to limit such things from happening. Just recently every retired or active police officer was given permission to carry concealed by federal law. I be leave at some point that same permission will be given to this country's citizens. as it should.

All of this does not change anything that I said. I still pity those who feel so threatened that they can only feel safe while holding a gun. I also find it ironic that its always people who have these insecurities who assume that others who do not want every tom dick and harry on the street armed (especially in the trucking industry with their ever plummeting standards) are not proficient or knowledgeable of weapons. There are hardly any ways to prevent an assault unless you have your little popgun in your hand at all times and point it at everyone who you even remotely feel is a "threat". Try again though..

Well, using that logic, genius...we can now disarm our law enforcement agencies

what does wearing sleeveless shirts have to do with it?

#34

02-16-2008, 11:07 AM

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Judging from your misuse of the English language, I would suggest going back to school. Take an English course and a self defense course. I think we'd all feel safer.
I'm a big believer in the right to bare arms. I always wear short sleeved shirts. LOL. :mrgreen:
Seriously, I am a supporter of the second amendment.
I used to carry a gun, and I know how to use one. But I have seen/heard/read about too many people being killed by their own weapon. If I am not a master of the weapon, I choose not to carry it. It's just too easy for the enemy to take it from me. So, I don't carry any weapons other than my feet, hands and mouth.
If I need a gun to make a delivery, I will refuse to go to that location. I have delivered in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island and even Memphis and still don't feel any need to carry a gun.
I just use my common sense. (That's not so common anymore.)
Many people have been killed even when holding a gun. If someone came at me with a gun and took my wallet, I'd only lose that and a pair of soiled shorts. Take the same scenario and I pull out a gun, how much more likely am I to get shot now? I don't think it's worth finding out.
To your original question; when I had a handgun, way back when, in the time before time, you could get a federal gun permit that allowed you to carry a concealed weapon in any state. That permit overruled any state laws and was not too hard to get. I'm sure now, with the so called "War on Terror" it is not so easy and maybe impossible. But that is what I'd look into if I wanted to carry.
As with most things in life, fear is the harbinger of problems.
Problems can often be solved with education.
Why not just carry some pepper spray and make life easier and safer. Can't accidentally kill an innocent person with pepper, can you?

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#35

02-16-2008, 11:52 AM

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Depends on how long you want to be held up if FDOT finds it :sad: Probably any place from 1 to 5 hours while they figur out what to do.

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02-16-2008, 12:15 PM

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Depends on how long you want to be held up if FDOT finds it :sad: Probably any place from 1 to 5 hours while they figur out what to do.

I buddy of mine got stoped in his dump truck around a year ago in PA. and when asked if he had any guns or drugs etc. he did say he had a gun and a CCW permit. They took the gun and the permit back to thier car and checked the #'s on the gun and the permit both came back good gave him his gun and permit back and told him to have a good day. It did not hold him up any longer (maybe 5-10min)

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#37

02-16-2008, 12:29 PM

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Depends on the State, and if the office got any last night :P

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02-16-2008, 01:29 PM

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Try it and let us know, just make sure when you start shooting at the things going bump in the night that I'm not parked near you! What caliber are you carrying? Make sure it's a magnum so you can blow holes thru 5 or 6 sleepers when you miss the boogie man!
Yeay I feel VERY strongly about this subject cause there are to many rambo wannabe's out there and every one of them is a trained expert! do us all a favor and carry a can of bee killer instead of a gun, the life you save may be mine! And before you give me any gruff about being antigun :roll: I have had a CCW in NY for over 20 years and I did use it to defend myself. BTW I Vary rarely carry now

#39

02-16-2008, 01:42 PM

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You have some valid opinions. But they are just that, opinions. What I don't care for is the "I support the 2nd Amendment, but" crowd. Either you support it or you don't. Barack Obama supports the 2nd Amendment too, only for people who live in rural America where police have long response times. Why should Billy Bob American in rural America have the right over Joe American living in a big city?

If you choose to let an armed criminal victimize you and hope he doesn't eliminate the only witness, then go right ahead. But it is that exact thinking that the common criminal is hoping for. The recent case in Chicago where 6 women were murdered in a robbery at a clothing store is a perfect example. Had just one of those people been armed and able to level the playing field it may have had a better outcome.

I am not some wacko gun nut(as Fozzy seems to thing we all are), but I refuse to play victim. If more people started to fight back against the criminal element we might actually make some progress against crime.

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02-16-2008, 02:25 PM

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You're preaching to the choir here, Bud. There's no "BUT", I support the 2nd amendment 100%. I'm all for keeping and bearing arms. I just choose not to, on my person anyway, because for me, I feel safer without one. (Besides, a gun doesn't go with my wardrobe and I can't hide it in my spandex. LOL.) If that means I get shot in the convenience store, so be it. I take my chances every time I drive down the road, and with the type of people driving today, I think I am at a much greater risk of injury or death on the road than at any other place that I go to, including NYC! But that's me. I'll vote for all the gun rights and fight to keep that right whenever I can. I have actually thought about buying a gun and keeping it in the house under lock, just to exercise my right, should I ever need it (like for a major problem, like an invasion, not a robber, per say), it'll be there. My only complaint regarding guns is the idiots who don't know how to use them properly and keep them safely locked away from children. There's been too many accidents as a result of ignorance. It's like the same complaint I have about bad drivers (including truckers). There wouldn't be so many problems on the road if people knew how to drive. And less gun accidents if people practiced proper gun safety. And, in the same way cops don't stop enough speeders and tailgaters, if we enforced the traffic laws and the gun laws we already have, we would be much better off! OK, I'm done, next topic....

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