Out of fuel
#21
09-28-2007, 01:10 PM
Last thing I was flying was UltraLights - maybe now I have a steady job I'll put one together again. Got three or four laying around here somewhere...
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#22
09-28-2007, 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by roadranger
Originally Posted by freebird
"____inch's of fuel left in tank"
Have they started taking fuel gauges out of trucks???? :? 8) I don't know who trained you when it comes to flying. I was trained to always put all the fuel on board the aircraft tanks could hold and still be legal as far as weight and balance. The reserve had to do with what was the legal amount you had to have while flying IFR which requires 45 minutes upon landing. See: FAR 91.167. VFR is different. FAR 91.151 says "says that no pilot can begin a flight unless consideration of wind and weather will allow the flight to reach the planned destination with enough fuel to cruise for 30 minutes at a normal power setting, or 45 minutes at night." However, running out of gas is NOT against the rules. There is a catch all rule FAR 91.13 which bans all "careless or reckless operation." Where I was trained there is an old saying -- The runway behind you -- The altitude above you -- The fuel you have burned. None of these help you if you have a problem. I would agree never trust the gauges in an airplane, or any other type of fuel gauge. I've been flying for almost 35 years. kc0iv Being in north Georgia, I, too, have the good fortune of only being around 700-800 msl, so if I take a friend up to go tooling around in the Cherokee 180 for a bit, I generally don't worry about topping off the tanks, even on warm days, though I do take it into account. But consider what might happen if you lived in Denver and decided to pile yourself and 3 of your friends into a 172 loaded with full fuel for some local sightseeing in July or August :shock: The excessive weight and high density altitude could be a lethal combination. In such cases, it is definitely better to load only the required fuel plus a small reserve, as required by FAR
#23
09-28-2007, 05:10 PM
If you run out of fuel, why would you tell anyone? Just put fuel in it, prime it, start it and head to the nearest fuel point and fuel.
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#24
09-28-2007, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by terrylamar
If you run out of fuel, why would you tell anyone? Just put fuel in it, prime it, start it and head to the nearest fuel point and fuel.
great ideas ,but a person that thinks like that is not likely to run out fuel in the first place , and those that are ...WELL :wink:
#25
09-29-2007, 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by freebird
"____inch's of fuel left in tank"
Have they started taking fuel gauges out of trucks???? :? Where? I've always done it by considering total fuel capacity, average MPG with a safety factor of -1 mpg (truck gets 7, I figure on 6), and miles travelled. I ran out once, actually twice the same day (didn't put in enough fuel in BFE to get to the truck stop after all) and always aimed to be looking hard for fuel when I was down to 100 gallons. I'd rather lug around 100 useless gallons of fuel than run out again. Running out of fuel on a curvy shoulderless back road in BFE in a tractor trailer is NOT pleasant.
#26
09-29-2007, 03:15 PM
mileage calculation is always better
except when you find out that you have a heavy load, on a windy day, then you must account for that, usually, i am running 5.5 to 6.1 mpg on windy days with a heavy load, i figure 4.5 so far, it has worked better than my fuel gauge, which is usually jumping and bouncing from half to empty
#28
10-08-2007, 07:32 AM
Originally Posted by eoplocust
wow so much to consider.. real world things i was never told in cdl school.
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#29
10-08-2007, 08:15 AM
Those dam opti stops from qual comm alot of times seam to run me closer to emty than I would like or dare to do with my own vechilce, but I found myself being less close to emty recently making sure I have fuel up into where the cap screws on and since then I have not been so close, but it might be a quinsedent as well
#30
10-08-2007, 09:08 AM
Originally Posted by Redlight
Those dam opti stops from qual comm alot of times seam to run me closer to emty than I would like or dare to do with my own vechilce, but I found myself being less close to emty recently making sure I have fuel up into where the cap screws on and since then I have not been so close, but it might be a quinsedent as well
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