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Old 09-24-2007, 10:35 AM
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What about Schneider,how are they about idling,and that idling contract with Swift you're joking right??
 
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No, I am not joking about the idling policy. I understand that Shneider and J.B. are now also cracking down on idling. You might want to check with them to see what their policies are!
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:35 AM
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You all realize that there is an exemption in California to allow idling during adverse weather conditions? Heat is an adverse weather condition.

That link posted above needs to be read thoroughly before making anymore comments.
 
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Colin: I thought you could idle in the non idling states if you had a pet onboard? Haven't read the link above so perhaps I shouldn't have asked the question. However, every driver tells me that you can if you have a pet. I'm telling every driver go get a hamster or something and idle.

I'm not an advocate for large pets on the trucks due to odor and pest control. However, I realize many drivers bring pets with them. EECCKK.

One day in Colorado I saw a guy get out and walk a huge dog. I was thinking to myself--no way, there's not enough room for me and a large dog on the truck. Before the dog walking was over, he walked two medium sized dogs also. I was laughing so hard thinking about sharing beds with ticks and flees I couldn't stop. Guess what there was also a woman on the truck also. OH MY GOODNESS-NO WAY IN HELL IN MY TRUCK.

I trip over the gear shift just getting to the passenger seat. No way, no way, no way.... :roll: 8)
 
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Originally Posted by Colin
You all realize that there is an exemption in California to allow idling during adverse weather conditions? Heat is an adverse weather condition.

That link posted above needs to be read thoroughly before making anymore comments.
If you go and actually read that exemption it states when the vehicle is forced to remain motionless due to adverse weather conditions.

Last time I knew, heat never caused a road to be shut down. :wink:

Pretty much come Jan 1, 2008, drivers will no longer be able to idle in order to maintain comfort levels in their rigs.

Now here is a real kick in the pants. If you have an APU and think no problem, I will just fire it up and be all comfy think again. None of the APU's currently on the market meet CA new emission laws which go into effect Jan/08.

I wonder what those of you who run out to California are going to do come Jan/08?
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin
You all realize that there is an exemption in California to allow idling during adverse weather conditions? Heat is an adverse weather condition.

That link posted above needs to be read thoroughly before making anymore comments.
Originally Posted by Uturn2001
If you go and actually read that exemption it states when the vehicle is forced to remain motionless due to adverse weather conditions.

Last time I knew, heat never caused a road to be shut down. :wink:

Pretty much come Jan 1, 2008, drivers will no longer be able to idle in order to maintain comfort levels in their rigs.

Now here is a real kick in the pants. If you have an APU and think no problem, I will just fire it up and be all comfy think again. None of the APU's currently on the market meet CA new emission laws which go into effect Jan/08.

I wonder what those of you who run out to California are going to do come Jan/08?
I don't see anything regarding motion of the vehicle. If that list is incomplete, shame on LandLine.

The exemptions do state one for what appears to be container drivers: "Queuing beyond 100 feet of residential units"

What about:
"Prevent safety or health emergency"

Could that be interpreted as preventing hypothermia or heat stroke?

CALIFORNIA
Statewide
Time limit: 5 minutes
Fines
• Minimum $100
Exemptions
• Resting in sleeper berth beyond 100 feet of residential units (exemption ends January 2008)
• Traffic conditions
• Queuing beyond 100 feet of residential units
• Adverse weather conditions or mechanical difficulties
• Vehicle safety inspection
• Service or repair
• Power takeoff involving cargo or work functions
• Prevent safety or health emergency
• Emergency vehicles

City of Sacramento
Time limit
• 5 minutes
• Prohibits reefer operation within 100 feet of residential or school areas unless loading or unloading
Fines
• Not less than $100 and not more than $25,000 per violation
Exemptions
• Traffic conditions/control
• Traffic conditions
• Vehicle safety inspection
• Service or repair
• Conform to manufacturers’ specifications
• Power takeoffs involving cargo or work functions
• Prevent safety or health emergency
• HOS compliance at truck/rest stop

Placer County (NE of Sacramento)
Time limit
• 5 minutes
• Prohibits reefer operation within 100 feet of residential or school areas unless loading or unloading
Fines
• $50 minimum
Exemptions
• Traffic conditions/control
• Traffic conditions
• Vehicle safety inspection
• Service or repair
• Conform to manufacturers’ specifications
• Power takeoffs involving cargo or work functions
• Prevent safety or health emergency
• HOS compliance at truck/rest stop
• Operate intermittent equipment
• Attainment areas where air meets EPA quality standards
 
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Well I have wicked asthma so I'm sure I should be exempted!!! Thank goodness, there's no way I could survive long in 100 degree temps whether it's west or east coast without idling.

Although, I'd say I much prefer the west coast due to the low humidity. Lived in humid climates for over 1/2 my lifetime and won't go back. You guys can have the green grass and trees. Frankly, I can't stand that humidity!!!

Colin, you never answered my question regarding the pets. If your list was inclusive I guess the answer is no?!? 8) :roll:
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:23 AM
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I have no info other than the anecdotal posts I have seen here regarding pets being allowed as an exemption.
 
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I doubt there is enough manpower to even enforce these idling laws,unless you park in a no truck parking zone.
 
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Originally Posted by Colin
Originally Posted by Colin
You all realize that there is an exemption in California to allow idling during adverse weather conditions? Heat is an adverse weather condition.

That link posted above needs to be read thoroughly before making anymore comments.
Originally Posted by Uturn2001
If you go and actually read that exemption it states when the vehicle is forced to remain motionless due to adverse weather conditions.

Last time I knew, heat never caused a road to be shut down. :wink:

Pretty much come Jan 1, 2008, drivers will no longer be able to idle in order to maintain comfort levels in their rigs.

Now here is a real kick in the pants. If you have an APU and think no problem, I will just fire it up and be all comfy think again. None of the APU's currently on the market meet CA new emission laws which go into effect Jan/08.

I wonder what those of you who run out to California are going to do come Jan/08?
I don't see anything regarding motion of the vehicle. If that list is incomplete, shame on LandLine.

The exemptions do state one for what appears to be container drivers: "Queuing beyond 100 feet of residential units"

What about:
"Prevent safety or health emergency"

Could that be interpreted as preventing hypothermia or heat stroke?

CALIFORNIA
Statewide
Time limit: 5 minutes
Fines
• Minimum $100
Exemptions
• Resting in sleeper berth beyond 100 feet of residential units (exemption ends January 2008)
• Traffic conditions
• Queuing beyond 100 feet of residential units
• Adverse weather conditions or mechanical difficulties
• Vehicle safety inspection
• Service or repair
• Power takeoff involving cargo or work functions
• Prevent safety or health emergency
• Emergency vehicles

City of Sacramento
Time limit
• 5 minutes
• Prohibits reefer operation within 100 feet of residential or school areas unless loading or unloading
Fines
• Not less than $100 and not more than $25,000 per violation
Exemptions
• Traffic conditions/control
• Traffic conditions
• Vehicle safety inspection
• Service or repair
• Conform to manufacturers’ specifications
• Power takeoffs involving cargo or work functions
• Prevent safety or health emergency
• HOS compliance at truck/rest stop

Placer County (NE of Sacramento)
Time limit
• 5 minutes
• Prohibits reefer operation within 100 feet of residential or school areas unless loading or unloading
Fines
• $50 minimum
Exemptions
• Traffic conditions/control
• Traffic conditions
• Vehicle safety inspection
• Service or repair
• Conform to manufacturers’ specifications
• Power takeoffs involving cargo or work functions
• Prevent safety or health emergency
• HOS compliance at truck/rest stop
• Operate intermittent equipment
• Attainment areas where air meets EPA quality standards
In the last few lines it mentions HOS...In a few trucks I've driven in the past, heat and A/C would be considered "intermitent equipment".
 

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