Who should go into trucking?

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Old 09-05-2007, 09:29 AM
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Who should go into trucking? Here's my ideal situation. No wife, no kids, no pets (that you don't want to take with you), don't like time clocks or a boss looking over your shoulder, like seeing the country (above the rest).Don't mind heavy traffic ,or traffic jams, cold sandwiches or greasy food, or owning an satellite radio. Good luck
 
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
The median annual earnings is just shy of $36,000. Are you saying that the median wage before 1980 was $54,000??? Prove it!
No. But you are not taking into account the effects of inflation.

Competing with the Fast Food industry??? NOT!!! The trucking workforce has basically ALWAYS competed with the CONSTRUCTION industry for its workforce! The current driver shortage occurred in the LAST decade when payrates dropped BELOW that of construction workers.
Trucking is unskilled labor. So is fast food. Not hard to figure out.

The 22% national out of service rating for Class 8 vehicles is proof in the pudding enough for me.
Prove it!
I will get that data for you.

In the last decade more Americans died in truck accidents than in the Vietnam War...225 per week and rising...the equivalent of an airline crash every seven days.

Close, but no cigar! First of all, the Vietnam War (full deployment years) did NOT last 10 years! So, this is a nonstarter comparison to begin with!
Sure it did. The US began troop buildups in 1963 after Diem's assasination and we did not leave until 1973. The Vietnam War was never an officially declared "war" so you can't say that it started and ended with full deployment years.

Secondly, the figures are about HALF that! I'll see if I can find the link, but THE TRUCKER magazine, Vol 20, No. 16 (last half of August) has an article with THIS headline:

"the number of people killed in fatal accidents involving lare trucks in 2005 was 5,240, compared with 4,995 in 2006."[/b]
First of all, The Trucker is an industry-sponsored publication. Second, one-year comparisons are silly. You need to look at data that stretches over 5-10 years to find a trend. Unfortunately, while there are year-over-year increases and decreases, the overall trend is toward MORE accidents.
 
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Trucking is unskilled labor. So is fast food. Not hard to figure out.
Only someone who has never backed into a space at a Pilot would say that.

In the last decade more Americans died in truck accidents than in the Vietnam War...225 per week and rising...the equivalent of an airline crash every seven days.
Newp. Large truck occupants die at the rate of about 750/year, which is about the same as the number of bicyclists killed. Large truck occupants and non-occupants die at the rate of about 5000/year.
http://www.bts.gov/publications/nati...ble_02_04.html

First of all, The Trucker is an industry-sponsored publication. Second, one-year comparisons are silly. You need to look at data that stretches over 5-10 years to find a trend. Unfortunately, while there are year-over-year increases and decreases, the overall trend is toward MORE accidents.
And the above lunatic statement has been refuted by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics link shown above.
1999 - 759
2000 - 754
2001 - 708
2002 - 689
2003 - 726
2004 - 761
So TWO (2) more truckers were killed in 2004 than were killed in 1999. It will be the year 7004 before your dream of seeing 11,700 truckers/year killed on the highway is realized.

If your vision is that 11,700 people/year are killed including non-occupants, the news is even worse:
1999 - 5380
2000 - 5282
2001 - 5111
2002 - 4393
2003 - 5036
2004 - 5190
It just doesn't look like we'll ever get there. Sorry. :?
 
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yep-Solo-I started at either .10cmp or 11-This was the Norm and not the abnormal average I would say.
yoop....was that back when you had to drive uphill there and uphill back home? :P
 
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That was when we could run some pretty major miles in a week without the DOT screwing with us unless you did something really Stupid
Had to make up for the pay :P
 
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Trucking is unskilled labor. So is fast food. Not hard to figure out.
Only someone who has never backed into a space at a Pilot would say that.

In the last decade more Americans died in truck accidents than in the Vietnam War...225 per week and rising...the equivalent of an airline crash every seven days.
Newp. Large truck occupants die at the rate of about 750/year, which is about the same as the number of bicyclists killed. Large truck occupants and non-occupants die at the rate of about 5000/year.
http://www.bts.gov/publications/nati...ble_02_04.html

First of all, The Trucker is an industry-sponsored publication. Second, one-year comparisons are silly. You need to look at data that stretches over 5-10 years to find a trend. Unfortunately, while there are year-over-year increases and decreases, the overall trend is toward MORE accidents.
And the above lunatic statement has been refuted by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics link shown above.
1999 - 759
2000 - 754
2001 - 708
2002 - 689
2003 - 726
2004 - 761
So TWO (2) more truckers were killed in 2004 than were killed in 1999. It will be the year 7004 before your dream of seeing 11,700 truckers/year killed on the highway is realized.

If your vision is that 11,700 people/year are killed including non-occupants, the news is even worse:
1999 - 5380
2000 - 5282
2001 - 5111
2002 - 4393
2003 - 5036
2004 - 5190
It just doesn't look like we'll ever get there. Sorry. :?

Sorry to have to be the one to break the news to everyone but......those numbers mean NOTHING without comparing them to the total number of drivers. I'm sure that by comparing the number killed per ??? # of drivers will make a strong case for things being safer than before because there are more drivers now than in 1999.
 
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
Sorry to have to be the one to break the news to everyone but......those numbers mean NOTHING without comparing them to the total number of drivers. I'm sure that by comparing the number killed per ??? # of drivers will make a strong case for things being safer than before because there are more drivers now than in 1999.
It's not that simple.

You must also take into account the amount of 4-wheelers on the road in relation to the amount of trucks. There are other variables which must be taken into consideration as well before you can make a definite conclusion.

Also, what most of you fail to understand is that one-third of all truck crashes go UNREPORTED to the FMCSA according to a report from the GAO: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/....html?id=10082

In 2003, large trucks made up 3 percent of the nation's registered vehicles, but they were involved in 11 percent of ALL fatal crashes. :shock: :shock:
 
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I'll tell you why I'm going to do it. It's a way to get my debt paid off and put a lot of money in my savings account so I can come back home and pick up where I'm leaving off in my real estate career. I don't have a time frame of how long I'll be on the road, but it will be long enough to accomplish the goals I have in mind.
 
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For what it's worth this was in the Friday USA Today comparing wages and such from 25 years ago.

MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD CURRENT DOLLARS
1982 $19,074
2007 $48,201

INFLATION ADJUSTED
1982 $40,573
2007 $48,201

THE BUYING POWER OF ONE U.S. DOLLAR
1982 $1.00
2007 $.46

Pretty sobering stuff. When inflation is factored in, we as a nation of workers have only increased our wages $305 a year for the last 25 years.
 
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