The only reason people get a DUI is because they dont know how to drive drunk.
Its a skill, an art :lol:

 

This labor day weekend in the county I live in, the cops are setting up 2 DUI checkpoints. I find it rather disturbing that these checkpoints are always conducted in the poor neighborhoods. After a few days the cops release thier arrest reports and numbers and they are generally low, maybe 6 DUIs, a few suspened licencse, a couple warrants,etc. The cops never set up checkpoints in the upscale parts of town, ya know were the cops,lawyers,congressmen, aka the proffessional folks live.

 

So what you are saying is that people who live in the poor neighborhoods are stupid? Drunks? What? The main reason that they do not set up the checkpoints in the better neighborhoods is that these places normally are not full of bars and liquor stores. They catch just as many rich as poor as they all get their booze from the same sources.

 

The rich and poor might all go to the same liqour store in your one horse town but here there are more bars and liqior stores in the wealthier communities.. In the poor hood there are a handful of converted conveneint stores turned check-cashing liqour stores. Now, 20 miles north there are big liqour stores,and plenty of them, and plenty of cars in the parking lot. Plenty of bars in rich town also and they are not the 50 seat variety with a couple pool tables and a Nascar clock, maybe a couple workvans and bicycles out front. On the other hand the rich bars are 300 seaters, BMW's, Lexus, Benz fill the parking lot. Now say you are a prosecutor, you need convictions, who do you want to face in court- joe lunchbucket who probably spent his last 50 bucks in his wallet at the bar, or coach joe or cop joe or attorney joe or senator craig who can hire the dream team and laugh your defendents charge right down the courthouse steps into the public sewer. As a taxpayer I want more bang for my buck- I want the roadblocks set up at the corner of Waterford Crystal Ave and Rolex Av., instead of Hamburger Helper St. and Payday advance Ave.

 

Cripplecreek: This is a VERY valid argument and concern (especially the part about the probable conviction rate.) I applaud you.

Fozzy: Much as I detest it, I will let your holier than thou attitude slide on this one, but your confusion is evident. Cripplecreek is saying that JUST as many rich people drive HOME from bars, liquor stores, friends houses where they partied, etc., as in poor areas. It's not really a question of WHERE the drinding establishments are. It's a question of WHERE the DUI checkpoints are, and in his example (and much the same where I live,) they are NOT posted on the routes to and from the more well to do areas of town.

And something ELSE you said on a page I can't get to to quote right now... about how low the industry has gotten because they hire people with DUI's. Bullcrap!!! Everyone KNOWS that in "your" day.... drivers often stopped off for a beer or two while driving, and MANY of them took bennies and coke like they were candy so they could run for days!

Most of the "outlaw" drivers of today, are leftovers from a time when the whole industry (with the possible exception of the Teamsters,) had the "reputation" of being OUTLAWS. The only reason there MIGHT have been fewer fatal crashes involving a big truck back then, was the lack of interstates... therefore lower speed limits, and MUCH less traffic (both trucks AND 4wheelers) on the roads. (And perhaps, actually, the LACK of HOS regulations on when a driver could take a nap, IF he was so inclined!)

As for THIS poster's case, I don't know. Sounds a little fishy. IF he was in the pool all day (and not drinking) his BAC would not match someone who had just "fled" a vehicle. He spent long enough fighting it, but must have had some lousy lawyers! There are tests that could determine how much water was in his epidermis, (therefore how long he'd been in the pool.) It's a shame he didn't have a security camera watching the driveway or pool area! I could have beat this rap with one hand tied behind my back!

But, I DO wish some of you would join the Ministry if you feel the need to PREACH at every new member of this board. (Okay... I didn't "let it slide.) If the PRESIDENT of the U.S. can manage to do HIS job (which is in question) with a DUI or MORE in HIS past.... I think the trucking industry can handle a few people who have made a mistake when they were NOT BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A RIG!

Hobo

 

Im sorry but if i knew fozzy was going to try and flame people for asking few questions and calling people liers when he has no clue of what happened.. then I wouldnt posted anything on here.. I joined these forums and read the rules .. apparently he did not.. I won't ask anymore questions

 

shake it off and take everything written with a grain of salt, they don't know you so don't take anything personal. I know thats hard but got to just get some thick skin to be in this industry you may hear a lot of stuff you would rather not.

Rule of thumb if it is useful use it, if not chuck it, no use carring around junk. Good Luck. As for having a dui not the end of the world, Sorry if they let ex cons get degrees in law represent criminals then become judges to judge the rest of us then everyone deserve at least a 2nd chance.

 

WOOT Baby WOOT.. After 6 months of searching and studing the DUI Laws. I found the pinhole.. Just wanted to let others no about this pin hole. to help out other newbie members.. My DUI Happened under the age of 21. So on my DMV record its states-- Under 21 - Measurable Alcohol -- where it should say Driving Under Influence. Well anyways.. In all states there is such thing as a Zero Tolerance Law for people under 21. Which states:
Zero Tolerance Law
In every state it is illegal for people under 21 to drive with any measurable level of alcohol in their systems. In West Virginia,
the penalty for violating the zero tolerance law is a fine of $25 to $100 ($25 mandatory) and license revocation for 60 days. A first
offender may have the charges dismissed and the record expunged by successfully completing an alcohol safety/treatment and
interlock program. The penalty for a repeat offense is 24 hours jail (mandatory), a fine of $100 to $500 ($100 mandatory), and license
revocation for 1 year or until the offenders 21st birthday, whichever is longer.
In addition to this you have to have blood alcohol level of : Chart.
BAC levels for Youth DWI Offenders
The criteria for state laws to qualify under the National Highway Systems
Designation Act of 1995 are listed below. Some states with lower BAC levels for
youthful DWI offenders must amend their laws if they are to meet the federal criteria.
Drivers under age 21:
.00 BAC (AZ, DC, IL, ME, MN,
NC, OK, OR, TX, UT)

.01 BAC (CA, NJ)

.02 BAC (AL, AR, AK, CO, CT, DE,
FL, GA, HI, IA, ID, IN,
KS, KY, MA, MD, MI, MO,
MT, ND, NE, NH, NM, NV,
NY, OH, PA, RI, TN, VA, VT,
WA, WV)

Others:

.00 BAC (WI for drivers
under age 18)

.04 BAC (LA for drivers
under age 18)

.08 BAC (MS for drivers
under age 21)

I called DMV I will have my interlock installed on my car and 6 months from now I can start driving truck instead of 1 year and 4 months from now to drive for DUI restriction of 3 years. and more if i was to wait for it was 5 years old. plus now when 6 months is over i can apply to any trucking company, cause no dui ... Woot..

My Conclusion::: God Bless America, by god thanks West Virginia. :-) For more information- http://www.fightunderagedrinking.org...stVirginia.pdf , http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/outr...s/factzero.pdf ,
http://www.dmv.org/wv-west-virginia/...ve-law/dui.php.

DUI Restrictions None
DUI Restrictions 1 year ago

Here is a little information to new truckers that have dui on there records. Many people tell you 10, some say 8, some say 7, some say 6, some say 5, some say 4, and so on and so on... Most companies out there want it to be either 10, 7, 5, or 3 years old. in order to hire you. The only trucking companies that will hire under 3 years is truckers that already have experience behind the wheel. Usually 6 months or more. OR If you know an Owner Operator that you can team up with and just pay for your own insurance. . Im not say it isnt possible to find one, in fact if you do let me know. Just don't give up always look somewhere else.. For example: I called the dmv
First Person: said no cant be removed from your record.

Second Person said: looks like you shouldnt have got it then should you.

Thired Person: said Let me connect you to the DUI department.

4th Person: said I think that you can get it removed by doing this program let me connect you to that department.

5th person said hello nice to meet you let me get you setup with that program.

Reason Im saying this don't just listen to the first person that says anything.. Study the situation for a while. Try everything possible, first.

 

You found a loop hole instead of taking responsibility. OJ Simpson needs your help. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

It's not a loophole, it's just a way for you to get the charge changed. It will still show up as a DUI or an alcohol or substance violation on your MVR for a minimum of 5 years, even if the charge was dismissed. It will take a lawyer and an act of God to actually have the violation removed. So, you're still stuck waiting for 5 years or more, depending on the company.

And just to clarify, I've been doing this for over 6 years. I've talked to a lot of drivers with the same story and the same 'loophole'. And every time, bar none, it still shows up on the MVR.