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Old 08-10-2007, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by inmate1577
Before the end of your 14th hour you inform the shp/rec that you will be spending the night at their loading dock and their is NOTHING they can do about it and you will NOT turn that key when the time expires. They cant throw you off the property as federal law supercedes any private property laws and they must call the police to be safely escorted to a safe area.

Do not risk your license, do not move that truck. Also , its a good motivator to get them to finish on time and get you out, its worked for me. :lol:
I have seen this tried a thousand times and it has failed 100% of the time. You are on someone's private property and their wants and wishes trump DOT regulations every time. I have seen shippers and receivers call the police in order to get a driver off the property and believe me they get them off.

You are doing new drivers a great disservice by posting such bullshit information.
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kc0iv
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Originally Posted by tater259
Kinda off topic.

I work as a shipping and receiving currently at a farley good size warehouse. We see normally 25+ trucks a day ranging form a 53' full 20+ pallets to trucks with only 1 pallet. We do all this in 7 hours. I dont see why it takes other receivers so many hours to get drivers out of there quickly. We have 2 receivers and 1 forklift driver to unload. I do both unload and receive. Avg time a driver spends at our place is 1 hr and 30 min with a full load that a few pallets may have to be broke down due to the company wont allow lumpers. Maybe im not seeing outside the box. Maybe other receivers are more busy than we are I dont know but I hussle to get drivers gone. Most drivers if the wheels dont turn they dont make money and I understand this and respect this. Stay safe out there and with luck in a few months I will be driving myself!!!
Well there's normally a line at the wharehouse.. takeing 1.5 hours a truck and 4 trucks are there waiting it adds up pretty quick.

I'd say the tater259 is doing pretty damn good.

By my count he averages better than 3 trucks/ hour.

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well sometimes 3 an hour according how many pallets come off. Its possible. But gotta remember and read above. There are 2 of us receivers. Plus I been on the job for 4 yrs so I know a few short cuts. For example. If a driver is in a hurry or only a pallet or 2. I dont count each individual piece to make sure its there. The bill says 400 cs. I count to make sure 400 is there and sign the bill and the driver leaves. Now if its a full load or if my count doesnt match the bill I will have to do an individual count of each product which takes a bit longer.
 
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by inmate1577
Before the end of your 14th hour you inform the shp/rec that you will be spending the night at their loading dock and their is NOTHING they can do about it and you will NOT turn that key when the time expires. They cant throw you off the property as federal law supercedes any private property laws and they must call the police to be safely escorted to a safe area.

Do not risk your license, do not move that truck. Also , its a good motivator to get them to finish on time and get you out, its worked for me. :lol:
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Inmate,

If you are going to throw around such phrases as "by law..... according to federal law.....federal law supercedes private property laws,".... etc., as well as your most recent attempt to proffer truck stop lawyering advice regarding what an employer may not disclose "by law", you really need to attend law school, and pass the bar exam.

You seem to think that attending "The University of Flying J School of Law" gives you any degree of credibility.

Unfortunately, it does not.
 
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:33 AM
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Inmate,

If you are going to throw around such phrases as "by law..... according to federal law.....federal law supercedes private property laws,".... etc., as well as your most recent attempt to proffer truck stop lawyering advice regarding what an employer may not disclose "by law", you really need to attend law school, and pass the bar exam.

You seem to think that attending "The University of Flying J School of Law" gives you any degree of credibility.

Unfortunately, it does not.

But he heard it on the CB. :shock: And we all know everything you heard on the CB is a fact.

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Old 08-10-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by inmate1577
Before the end of your 14th hour you inform the shp/rec that you will be spending the night at their loading dock and their is NOTHING they can do about it and you will NOT turn that key when the time expires. They cant throw you off the property as federal law supercedes any private property laws and they must call the police to be safely escorted to a safe area.

Do not risk your license, do not move that truck. Also , its a good motivator to get them to finish on time and get you out, its worked for me. :lol:
While it may encourage them to get you done sooner....if you tell them nicely enough..... It could get you jammed up if said in the wrong manner.

There is a little thing in the constitution that was upheld by the US Supreme Court....its called "States Rights". Federal laws cannot trump State laws unless the Federal law is more stringent. Federal legislators have almost completely dodged the bullet where a property owners rights are concerned.

You really don't want them calling the police to "escort you". It may turn out to be a "stuff and cuff" instead. Plus, causing that kind of a problem with a customer of your company could lead directly to the cancellation of the business relationship....and if your name is tied to the cancellation of the business, your job may end up cancelled.

Do the logical thing....and just go to line 4 and move to the closest safe place to park. Or if you are inclined..."YOU" can call the police and ask for an escort. Its a lot different than them calling...... 8)
 
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Originally Posted by inmate1577
Before the end of your 14th hour you inform the shp/rec that you will be spending the night at their loading dock and their is NOTHING they can do about it and you will NOT turn that key when the time expires. They cant throw you off the property as federal law supercedes any private property laws and they must call the police to be safely escorted to a safe area.

Do not risk your license, do not move that truck. Also , its a good motivator to get them to finish on time and get you out, its worked for me. :lol:
I can tell you to leave and by law you MUST leave. That does not mean you have to drive. You can walk. There's nothing in HOS that says you can't walk. After you are gone I will have your truck towed. Then you can explain to your company how you were a :dung: head and that the company's truck is impounded. Tha should go ever real well.
 
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Originally Posted by greg3564
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Before the end of your 14th hour you inform the shp/rec that you will be spending the night at their loading dock and their is NOTHING they can do about it and you will NOT turn that key when the time expires. They cant throw you off the property as federal law supercedes any private property laws and they must call the police to be safely escorted to a safe area.

Do not risk your license, do not move that truck. Also , its a good motivator to get them to finish on time and get you out, its worked for me. :lol:
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hey ya, noticed your presidential hopeful. how bout Karl Krueger - he is a fellow trucker, and when he is asked a question, he gives a straight answer. Not the round bout political jargon. Check out his website: http://www.krueger08.org/
 
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Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by inmate1577
Before the end of your 14th hour you inform the shp/rec that you will be spending the night at their loading dock and their is NOTHING they can do about it and you will NOT turn that key when the time expires. They cant throw you off the property as federal law supercedes any private property laws and they must call the police to be safely escorted to a safe area.

Do not risk your license, do not move that truck. Also , its a good motivator to get them to finish on time and get you out, its worked for me. :lol:
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hey ya, noticed your presidential hopeful. how bout Karl Krueger - he is a fellow trucker, and when he is asked a question, he gives a straight answer. Not the round bout political jargon. Check out his website: http://www.krueger08.org/
I can't vote Democrat. He might be OK but eventually all politicians become part of the insitution and go corrupt.
 
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LOL I sat last week long enough at one shipper to rest set my clock :shock:
 
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Originally Posted by Skywalker
the Maryland scale there by the cashbox at Perryville, MD
That name still strikes fear into my heart. I will go to any extreme to avoid that scalehouse.

situation, "common sense" would have to prevail.
Common sense? From the DOT up at Perryville? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe things have changed. I can't remember when I swore them off forever, but it was perhaps seven years ago. They were writing up all of our trucks for the most preposterous crap. My old boss/mechanic finally had to go to the Maryland DOT and invite them to come down to the shop and show him the supposed problems they were writing up, because he could not find them in order to fix them.

It was extortion, plain and simple.

But I digress. Sorry, blast from the past.

Nice to have some semi-official resolution of this issue, Skywalker. I've generally found DOT cops to be reasonable about such things. (Just not at Perryville!)

(Heh, I guess we just found the Cluggy-like chip I have on my own shoulder. )
 

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