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Originally Posted by kc0iv
Dawn, I'm a retired computer programmer. So I'm sure I a have lot better understanding of what is involved in creating print modules than you.
Secondly, I haven't spoke to either Bruce or Frank. I have spoken several times to Fritz (before either Bruce or Frank were even involved). I was one of the guys involved in the beta testing of DDL way back when.
Dawn, I know you want to help. However, there are subjects you don't know about and are better left to those that do know. This just happens to be one of these subjects. It only makes people go off on you (which happens on just about thread on this board). Ask yourself Why?
As a wise man once said: " It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain
kc0iv
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KC: Below is an e-mail from Frank @ DDL:
Which is basically what I stated in the first place!
I never claimed to know how to PROGRAM the DDL, AGAIN NO THANKS, THAT IS THEIR JOB, NOT MINE!
I know what the "Company" is thinking, I thought the same thing; hmmm.
If your company accepts logs printed from one of the existing print modules then all we need know which print module and 'form variation' if any for the print module.
Getting company to accept DDL printed logs.
In general it is a matter of presenting a DDL printed log to your log department, and 'see what happens'. See if the log will scan if your motor carrier has a scanning system. Most companies recognize the advantages of neat, error free, duty status logs. Swift, JB Hunt, Prime, Celadon are a few that come to mind that accept and encourage drivers to use DDL if they have computers.
But there are a few that seem to remember the regulations 'logs must be in the drivers own handwriting'. But there has been a Regulatory Guidance (Question 28 FMCSR 395.8 - big green book - since 2002) which gives guidance on computer printed logs)
I suggest 'snail mail' of a couple of blank forms to me. Fritz Bjorklund, PO Box 157, Kulpmont PA 17834. So I can review to see if one of the existing print modules 'match' or the modifications are minimal. For a 'brand new' form i.e. different, we require that 25 drivers be confirmed as DDL users of that form before we can commit to the development effort required to prepare a new print module.
The 'Is DDL Legal' topic on the web site. Including copies of the original letter FMCSA sent me regarding the Regulatory Guidance.
http://www.driversdailylog.com/ddllegal.htm.
10 Jan 2002. FMCSA issues 'Regulatory Guidance' favorable to DDL users - 04 Jan 2002 Response from FMCSA p3
See below for the other two pages of the FMCSA letter of 04 Jan 2002. Good news for computer users.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rulesregs/f...nterp395.8.htm Check
out Question 28 at the FMCSA Regulatory Guidance page 'Interpretations' for 395.8 Driver's Record of Duty Status. The FMCSA finally 'published' the Guidance on the web.
DDL v3.4.2.0 or later for CAN2007 and USA rules.
http://www.driversdailylog.com/DDL340.EXE
Direct links to DDL install programs.
Also visit
www.driversdailylog.com every two months or so to see if new features in DDL are useful. They can be downloaded to update your DDL without additional charges.
Sincerely,
Fritz Roland Bjorklund
If you read all my post; sounds like I said the same thing as him, but "KC" said the exact opposite. For instance KC stated "Frank does not have time to make any more print modules". He clearly stated 25 or more drivers and he will be happy to work on a new print module if one of them does not currently match your log format.
You said it wasn't as simple as mailing out a log sheet, but Frank clearly states to snail mail a log sheet and he will make the template as closely as possible; if 25 or more drivers are signed on with DDL using the same format. Which is why I said get a bunch of drivers to e-mail DDL requesting that log format.
So everyone before you assume one is not right; maybe you should check your facts :roll: :roll: :roll:
KC was under the "WRONG" impression of the discussion and thought I said I knew how to "PROGRAM" the DDL on print modules; which is NOT EVEN THE CASE, and I specifaclly stated I don't care how they program anything, that is their job!
I on the other hand was telling drivers how to go about getting their company to accept DDL and how to get a hold of DDL to SEE if they can get their print module set up!
KC get your head out of the programming world and learn how to read "again" what was discussed in the first place!
Oh and did you contact him 10 years ago and that is the information you retain? HE HAS GROWN SINCE THEN! :lol:
