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Old 12-26-2006, 02:34 AM
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Default The 14-hour rule...

If a driver begins driving at 0700, per the 14-hour rule, do they automatically have to stop driving at 2100? Does the rule basically mean that you can't drive 14 hours after coming on duty no matter what occurred in between (on duty not driving, off duty, sleeper berth, on duty driving) unless a 10-hour break occurred in between as well? :?
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:48 AM
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yes you have to stop driving at 2100. 14 hours is consecutive no matter what it is you're doing. remember not to pass the 11 hours of driving in that time frame too.
you have a split option, but if you split, you better be in the sleeper for at least 8 hours before you can finish the remainder of the 14 hours.
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but if you split and sleep for 8 hours, you might as well wait 2 more hours and start your 14 hr. clock all over again.
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:20 AM
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The only thing you could possibly do is log 8 hours minimum line 2. This cannot be broken up with 1,3 or 4. All this does is 'push back' the 14 hour rule, not reset it. If you took an 8 hour nap from 1200-2000, you'd have to shut down by 0500 the next morning.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:27 AM
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You can continue any line 4 activity (loading/unloading etc.) after your 14 is up, however.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:13 PM
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You're going to confuse the poor guy...

Stick to 14 on with only 11 hours drive time within that 14. After you have a premo grasp on logging that way, then try to learn the split and how you can and can't use it to your advantage.

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but if you split and sleep for 8 hours, you might as well wait 2 more hours and start your 14 hr. clock all over again.
WHile this is the best way to handle it if you can, a lot of times if a guy is "logging it as he does it" you need to use the split to get in and out of appointments with a reefer. Especially when trying to do multi stop drops. Everything don't always work out pretty.
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:42 PM
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You can continue any line 4 activity (loading/unloading etc.) after your 14 is up, however.
ya I love that! you can still work after you drive 11 hours and have been "at work" for 14 hours. ya right its your stuff you want it you get it off the trailer. I got here its on time and its in one piece, my job is done!
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:21 PM
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thanks for the input, now one last question ops:

When you do your Mac 8 and it asks about hours remaining before mandatory break, is it refering to the 14-hour rule, 11-hour rule, or to your 70 hours?
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:53 PM
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thanks for the input, now one last question ops:

When you do your Mac 8 and it asks about hours remaining before mandatory break, is it refering to the 14-hour rule, 11-hour rule, or to your 70 hours?
Consult your dispatcher as to which they expect. My trainer only fills in that line if time is going to be tight, such as 5 hours left of the 70 meaning that he needs time for a 34 hour break on this load, or 3 hours left on the 14 so he can't deadhead far. Most of the time it is left blank.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:57 PM
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Can't wait to see the answers to this one! Hint: Not ALL macros are created equally.

Better to ask your trainer or safety director.

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Old 12-27-2006, 01:04 AM
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each company build their macros to fit there need. usually they are asking on the 60/70 rule. logs are hard to understand and the more you learn the harder it becomes .... but you can use some of the rules to help you get your job done. Split time usually is not a good thing though as the 14 hour clock is ticking and if you make one mistake dot will shut you down for at least 24 hours when they catch it.
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