Using ether to start a cold engine

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Old 09-29-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JBenson2
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I idle, particularly when I'm sleeping and want to keep warm
How about the other extreme, when you are trying to sleep in the cab during a hot summer day... Are you concerned about the anti-idling laws that have been springing up around the country?

As I understand it, idling laws don't apply if you are IN THE SLEEPER, though I think some places back east set temp restrictions (eg. it must be above **degrees to use the AC or below ** degrees to run the heater).

By the way, HELLO to everyone. I began trucking in '76 to '86, took a forced break & started again from '97 til now. A lot has changed, and not for the better (except the equipment is much better).
 
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:25 PM
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As I understand it, idling laws don't apply if you are IN THE SLEEPER

I think you're wrong on that but it's a state by state thing so who knows what some states do. but Welcome.
 
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What happens when your in a state that has the idle law. Lets say it's 90 outside and you get a ticket. Is it just one ticket for the duration that your parked or do they bang on your cab until you stop. I guess my real question is, does a $25 dollar ticket or whatever buy you the luxury of A/C for the night?
 
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Old 09-30-2006, 01:28 AM
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While talking to an old salt driver today he told me that it was once required to use a shot of ether to start the diesel engines of old on frigid mornings. With today's modern technology is that still required? 8)
Not necessarily if you have your truck plugged in and DON'T spray starter fluid like they show on their Directions-Just a quick shot should do it. If not just give er another quick shot. Ether is VERY bad on your engine if you over use it.,



speaking of plugging in.... i have a plug(block heater?) near my drivers side door....i park truck at home daily...is it true all i do is plug into wall and to block heater and that will prevent a cold start in the a.m.??????
 
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Old 09-30-2006, 04:36 AM
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While talking to an old salt driver today he told me that it was once required to use a shot of ether to start the diesel engines of old on frigid mornings. With today's modern technology is that still required? 8)
Not necessarily if you have your truck plugged in and DON'T spray starter fluid like they show on their Directions-Just a quick shot should do it. If not just give er another quick shot. Ether is VERY bad on your engine if you over use it.,



speaking of plugging in.... i have a plug(block heater?) near my drivers side door....i park truck at home daily...is it true all i do is plug into wall and to block heater and that will prevent a cold start in the a.m.??????
Not so much that it will "prevent" a cold start. More like the start is not as cold, and more likely to start. At -35 Degrees F, you'll get it to fire, but the engine temp will be low enough that you really don't want to idle it up till the temp guage starts to go up. When it gets to that temp, you want to make sure you have the right additive in the fuel to keep it liquid. If not, the truck will fire, but not run very long. Even if you have it plugged in, the fuel can be a solid mass. If there are any questions about the fuel, when you start the truck, DO NOT TRY TO INCREASE THE RPM. Revving up the engine will, very likely, run you out of fuel in the engine with your tanks full. Let it idle for some time, and hope that a little heat from the engine will turn a small pool of fuel into liquid before you try to move the truck.

One more note on ETHER... I once ran a piece of equipment that had an "AIR PRE-HEATER". It was an electric element in the intake manifold that would glow red and heat the air before it went into the cylinders. Spraying Ether, no matter how much or how little, would cause a VERY SERIOUS EXPLOSION in the intake. If your engine is equipped with this, DO NOT USE ETHER!!!!!
 
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveBooth
I guess my real question is, does a $25 dollar ticket or whatever buy you the luxury of A/C for the night?
Not sure about that, but one thing for sure, you could stay in Hilton luxury suit, for less money! :P
 
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When ya'll say "idle", do you mean leaving the engine running while you sleep? If so, that probably burns a s***load of fuel. I've seen drivers do that at truck stops before in the middle of the night. They'd have the curtains drawn over the windshield and windows. It'd be on a summer night too, which means they'd have the A/C on,... buring more gas!! :shock:
 
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This was 20 some odd years ago that I was told this,so,it may be different now days. I was told once that diesel uses about 5 gallons every 12 hours,when idling
 
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Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
This was 20 some odd years ago that I was told this,so,it may be different now days. I was told once that diesel uses about 5 gallons every 12 hours,when idling
It depends on an engine size, load, RPM...and few other things.
Could be anywhere between 0.5 to 1.5 gallons an hour.
According to ECM, my average idle consumption, is 0.71gph. :roll:

When i did reply to Steve, i mean cost of that ticket, not fuel!
 
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Originally Posted by Douglas
When ya'll say "idle", do you mean leaving the engine running while you sleep? If so, that probably burns a s***load of fuel. I've seen drivers do that at truck stops before in the middle of the night. They'd have the curtains drawn over the windshield and windows. It'd be on a summer night too, which means they'd have the A/C on,... buring more gas!! :shock:
Well, try sleeping on a hot humid night in the deep south with the AC off. I "gahr-rhon-tee" you'll wind up in a pool of your own sweat.
 
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