You know guys you have beat this horse to death. :shock: I'm not for him going to CRE either nor do I think any lease program through a company is a good deal but......we all have learned from our mistakes. It's called life.....

FutureTrucker if this is your decision even though it's not the best decision in my book. Best of luck to you.

As I have said before someone has to drive for them guess it might as well be you.

 

The fact is boy genius is full of sh*t, he is just an England whore, probably a recruiter.
I for one hope he goes to Crash & Roll and goes broke, harsh not in the least this guy is just an idiot.

 

Here's to YOU, Midnightlighting / FutureTrucker!!

 

I've seen a few England drivers that were O/O , and were making money with England...BUT....these guys were training and had not 1 but 2 students on there truck ...This threesome should give you an idea of the miles one need to run with them to make $$$$ ..as if one has to go to the extreme of cramping 3 grown men in a closet sized space it must be rough , and near impossible as a SOLO...as why would a driver choose to cramp himself like this if he had a choice..........



As for Lease programs...they all basically suck...But if I wanted to train I could easily make money with just 1 student on a truck at Werner ...I don't want to share my space , and value my 10 hr shut down to much , as I like to do more than drive/sleep/drive/sleep/drive.....so this is not an option for me ...I've been looking for a local job ...but the better ones here in Colorado seem to require 2-3 yrs ...so I'll stomach Werner for 1 more year , as the companies I've looked at view it better if your time was put in at 1 place ...........


Basically with CR you are either going to run constant with a couple extra log books on your truck in the form of ..STUDENTS...or run yourself so illegal you will be gambling with you freedom , as if you ever are involved in an accident you might be looking at jail time...Or go broke shaking your head ,as you try to drive legal,and Solo.....And only manage to make C.R. money by cutting their cost on equipment until you turn the truck back in ,so it can be leased to a new ..SUCKER.....

 

Well I usually never post on something unless I have worked there, and I have not worked at England or plan to. And by no means am I an expert, I have only been on the road a little over 2 years. Now I do know that some drivers are not happy unless they are complaining about something. Now for my point those of us that are on the road 90% of the year or more come to know companies and the real way they operate by talking to other drivers. We see what companies are always in the truckstops waiting for loads and the ones that are on the move. So Future Trucker here it is, we/us are NOT trying to be mean we just don't want another fellow driver fooled into a bogus fleece program. You are new and we are just trying to steer you in the right direction to make your time an enjoyable and profitable one. Now England as a company driver or even swift as a company driver is a good place to get you feet wet for the first year then look at a company that better fits your style. You are the only one that knows what you want and we are here to answer questions you may have and help you in a smart decision and that is all. But you have to do what is good for your family and yourself and no-one else, remember that. And with that said I am sorry for the long post and hope to see you on the road in my truck or if the highway patrol for South Dakota offers me the post selection I want I will see you from the inside of a state trooper car, anyway I see you I hope you safety and happiness with whatever road you travel.

 

Every industry has it's naysayers and experts..........hell I'm sure when Bill Gates made his decision to drop out of Harvard in his Junior year, some professor gave him a 1,001 reasons why he was making a mistake and wouldn't make it.......I can just hear him now. "Personal computers? What drugs are you on, nobody will have personal computers, only big companies can afford computers.........you living in a a fantasy world, wanting to write programs for personal computers, they're nothing but toys... (this was in 1975 and TRS80 was the bomb).... you'll go broke, you'll end up being the laughing stock of the computer world." I guess $51 BILLION later maybe he made the right decision...........

Success come at the expense of failure folks.......no risk, no rewards. Maybe this young man will fail, maybe he will loose his shirt.......maybe he won't. My brother drives for CRE and he makes about $900 net per week......My lead trainer in school was a 1,000,000 miler with CRE, 13 years with them, had one of those 110 acre gentleman farms outside of Little Rock.......he had to come in off the road due to his wife being diagnosed with cancer. Last trip out to Denver, my brother introduced me to two females who teamed with CRE, they ran hard for 10 months and take two months off every year to travel in Europe., they've been with CRE for 10 years...........so it can be done.

And yes, I've met those who lost their shirts at CRE.......I've talked with the driver who had nothing but trouble with them...........I've met the same people with other companies as well in the same predicament. Failures can be found at any company.

Would I go L/O........not in this lifetime. It comes down to another person's trash is another person's gold mine...... if it weren't so Ebay would be out of business. CRE isn't for everyone, tell me what company is? Hell the line would be around the world twice over if there was such a company. Success isn't guarantied anywhere, not CRE, not Pumpkin, not Swift, no where.......it's all up to the individual.

Are the odds stacked against him.......sure they are, they're stacked against all of us........if there is one thing I've learned by switching to this field, is that for the most part those who cry the loudest about this company or that screwed me only tell you half the story at most........

My advise to this young man would be to sign on with someone else to get his training......learn to be a driver first before you make the jump into L/O or O/O. Not because CRE is so crooked (supposedly), but for the very simple reason that driving is one thing, being a business owner in the trucking field is entirely different and that's exactly what you are as a L/O or O/O, your a business man or woman who happens to drive a tractor with a 53' box on the back.

Here's novel thought.........instead of lambasting this young man for HIS decision, why not try to give him some advise that might help him. I mean everybody on here seems to be such experts on driving and such, why not try to help him out since he's made the choice. Like giving him some advice in maximizing his time, better trip planning suggestions, load selections, etc., etc.

My advice to you young man is this..... if you've made the decision, before you sign on the dotted line of your lease, make damn sure you understand it, make sure it has all the company deductions to be made identified............if it's not spelled out in the lease agreement you've got grounds to argue any deductions that are made outside of the contract. If you don't understand them, get a lawyer......if they won't let you have your lawyer review them.......that right there is a red flag. Don't expect them to lead you by the hand, you want to be business man, then you have to act like one.

I wish you the best of luck........not because you've chosen CRE, but because I think you're jumping into waters over your head and you barely know how to dog paddle.

 

Thanks life for the advice. I did go to CRE but once i got there some things did change while i was in school, i did get my cdl and i'm proud of that. They lied to me while i was in school and that is why i will not be returning to CRE as a driver due to the fact that if i lied to them on my app they would of kicked me out so fast it wouldnt funny, so i did what they would of done to me and licked them to the curb. Its kinda sad that most if our class went through the same thing and others went elsewhere too. I was warned by many here and i was hard headed and shunned their advice but now i see why they were saying those things and i will never refer anyone to CRE as long as i live. So i report to Swift on Monday and begin my career there as a driver.

Thanks everyone
Byron

 

Mark it up to a lesson learned and move on.......hell, I started with CRST, and I have to say it was a mistake. We live... we learn.

Good luck with Swift.

 

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Here's novel thought.........instead of lambasting this young man for HIS decision, why not try to give him some advise that might help him. I mean everybody on here seems to be such experts on driving and such, why not try to help him out since he's made the choice. Like giving him some advice in maximizing his time, better trip planning suggestions, load selections, etc., etc.


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Do you even know the back story here? Everybody and their brother tried to give advice, most of it positive, to this guy and he always knew better. I think most of the posters are reluctant to offer up advice such as you are suggesting when they were told repeatedly that they were full of crapola. :roll:

Ideally, the subject poster will have a great OTR career and comeback to advise others about his own personal experiences. Until then, most will not give him the benefit of the doubt. :wink:

 

well I hope all works out with you and stay one year with swift no matter how tuff it is or how long your gone from home stick it out. then go were you want.
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