How much per hour?
#31
You can't do OTR as an hourly job - it just simply doesn't work like that. I get paid percentage of the load. I average $150-200 per day with an average of 350-450 miles per day. I'm home every Friday and leave Sunday or Monday, depending on the outgoing freight. There's also been days when I cleared $500 for a short haul, then turned around and made $100 for a long haul. So, hourly would be almost impossible to figure out.
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#32
For those who are so concerned about being paid for every second of their time during the day, whether working or not, I think it would be quite enlightening to follow some of you around for a day and see how productive you really are. You'd kill to have me as an employee. You wont find a more honest, reliable worker. But I dont think we could get along and I'd quit on you.
You are also a slave to the clock. Of course, it may not matter if you are not working each second that you are being paid. Slave is a strong word but I'm much less a slave to my job then the guy with a truck payment. I agree with Fredog. The only thing that really matters is what you put in the bank at the end of the week. Um sure, If you dont have a life outside the truck. It doesn't matter how you are paid as long as you enjoy what you do and you earn a decent paycheck at the end of the week. The only thing that should be of concern is whether you can pay the bills and enjoy life. Hey we agree! It seems to me that some of you who tell us that you are making such big money working by the hour are not very happy. You want to convince the rest of us that you are making so much money but you sound miserable. Thanks, but no thanks. You're trying way too hard, me thinks GMAN is jealous. ![]()
#34
It can take a little more effort to calculate your hourly pay when you work otr. You need to take off that time where you are waiting or taking a shower or going to the bathroom. And then there is the time you spend eating or playing video games. If you want to accurately calculate your pay by the hour then you should only include that time where you are actually working.
"Hey boss!" he hollers. "You got this all wrong! I've been keeping track of all the time I was actually waiting on customers and it only amounts to about half the time you're paying me for. Looks like I owe you some money!" Reeling on his heels, the boss asks "Well, what about receiving the inventory and stocking the shelves?" "On the house! I can't sell from an empty shelf, can I? If the register ain't ringin', nobody's making any money, right? The boss gives Gman a quizzical look and asks "Gman, are you in anyway familiar with labor law?" Gman replies "Heck no! Labor law, Schmabor law! It just wouldn't be right to spend all this time hanging out here in your store and expect to get paid for it. Heck, to earn this kind of money, I'm gonna have to put in another 30 hours, or so. That be OK with you, boss?" "Do you have any lawyers in the family?" the boss asks. "Nah! I'm from a family of truckers. Got it in my blood! Man, do I miss that lifestyle!" "You didn't bump your head while you were sweeping out the storage trailer, did you, son?" inquired the flummoxed boss. "No sir, boss and thanks for asking. No charge for that, either. It needed to be done and if not me, then who? Just happy to be of service, sir!" "Congratulations, my boy! I'm promoting you to Assistant Manager!" beamed the boss. "Any chance you've got someone else at home looking for a new lifestyle?"
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So, in Gman's world, he says "Heh, screw truckin'. I'm gonna follow all that good advice I've been reading here at Confused and Delusional and go sling slurpees at the 7-11." He dons his envelope hat and reports for duty and works his appointed shifts. At the end of the week, the boss hands him a check and that sends Gmans gears to whirring.
"Hey boss!" he hollers. "You got this all wrong! I've been keeping track of all the time I was actually waiting on customers and it only amounts to about half the time you're paying me for. Looks like I owe you some money!" Reeling on his heels, the boss asks "Well, what about receiving the inventory and stocking the shelves?" "On the house! I can't sell from an empty shelf, can I? If the register ain't ringin', nobody's making any money, right? The boss gives Gman a quizzical look and asks "Gman, are you in anyway familiar with labor law?" Gman replies "Heck no! Labor law, Schmabor law! It just wouldn't be right to spend all this time hanging out here in your store and expect to get paid for it. Heck, to earn this kind of money, I'm gonna have to put in another 30 hours, or so. That be OK with you, boss?" "Do you have any lawyers in the family?" the boss asks. "Nah! I'm from a family of truckers. Got it in my blood! Man, do I miss that lifestyle!" "You didn't bump your head while you were sweeping out the storage trailer, did you, son?" inquired the flummoxed boss. "No sir, boss and thanks for asking. No charge for that, either. It needed to be done and if not me, then who? Just happy to be of service, sir!" "Congratulations, my boy! I'm promoting you to Assistant Manager!" beamed the boss. "Any chance you've got someone else at home looking for a new lifestyle?" Now thats funny lol:lol2::lol2:
#36
I have to agree with Gman, The bottom line for me is what goes in the bank account. Hours are secondary in my mind, however I came from a world where 80 hour weeks were the norm so working a 50 to 60 hour week is a cake walk for me.
Wow I agree with GMan, that is kind of like agreeing with Kevin... None the less, Snowman I have an awesome life outside of my job, as I look at my job as just that a JOB (no big deal) it pays the bills plus....While at work I give 100%, when that tractor shuts off I am finished and I move on to a better world, my home & family... if I clear $500 a week I am very happy everything above that is bonus money for the future. The more hours I work the more money I make, For a 50 hour week I will easily clear $650 to $700+. Most of my days are 9 to 11 hours, 5 days a week with Sunday & Monday off. I have the mind set to work easy not hard. I make sure to enjoy what time I have at home and will always opt for an extra day off if needed as it can all be taken in the blink of an eye. I know it is different in your world at UPS Freight as you guys get a range of both mileage and hourly pay, the dock/city drivers in Orlando are still hurting bigtime they are lucky if they get a 30/35 hour week, freight levels are still very low here. When it is working properly and you have gained senority your system is the best. It is getting to that stage that is the hard part. The otr guys have it even worse sitting in a truck stop waiting for a load but not getting paid, one more reason not to add up the hours verus your paycheck amount. I even enjoyed getting paid a percentage for my years at CCC, as some days I could be done in 8 hours and make $125 while other days I worked 12 hours for $160 It is what it is all of it is secondary to my life at home. Timberwolf
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If i am away from my home, i should (and do) get paid for every minute. if you are sitting in a truck stop you are not home, you are working. If you are sitting at a loading dock or in traffic, or at a D.O.T. check, or broken down on the side of the road you are working. If you miss somebodys birthday, aniversary, or if you miss a holiday or graduation it's probably because you are working. As far as i'm concerned if you are responsable for that truck in any way you are working and should be getting paid. just my 2 cents.
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If i am away from my home, i should (and do) get paid for every minute. if you are sitting in a truck stop you are not home, you are working. If you are sitting at a loading dock or in traffic, or at a D.O.T. check, or broken down on the side of the road you are working. If you miss somebodys birthday, aniversary, or if you miss a holiday or graduation it's probably because you are working. As far as i'm concerned if you are responsable for that truck in any way you are working and should be getting paid. just my 2 cents.
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this is what you said If i am away from my home, i should (and do) get paid for every minute. I get for all the time I am in the truck, you can break it down anyway you like. hourly, mileage, percentage, whatever..
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