[Fredog]

If you head our way this summer, watch your speed.
>
> IF YOU ARE DRIVING TO DECATUR, PLEASE WATCH YOUR SPEED LIMIT!!! See below:
>
>
>
> Subject: Illinois to start using Photo Radar in July !
>
> Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones in July.
> One mile per hour over the speed limit and the machine will get you a
> nice $375.00 ticket in the mail. Beginning July 1st, the State of
> Illinois will begin using the speed cameras in areas designated as "Work
> Zones" on major freeways. Anyone caught by these devices will be mailed
> a $375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense. The SECOND offense will cost
> $1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension. Drivers will also receive
> demerit points against their license, which allow insurance companies to
> raise Insurance rates.
>
> This is the harshest penalty structure ever set for a governmental unit
> involving PHOTO speed enforcement. The State already has two camera
> vans on line issuing tickets 24/7 in work zones with speed limits
> lowered to 45 MPH. Photos of both the Driver's face and License plate
> are taken. Pass this on!!!
>
> For more info: (http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r033005.html
> <http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r033005.html> )
>

[Orangetxguy]

Originally Posted by Fredog

If you head our way this summer, watch your speed.
>
> IF YOU ARE DRIVING TO DECATUR, PLEASE WATCH YOUR SPEED LIMIT!!! See below:
>
>
>
> Subject: Illinois to start using Photo Radar in July !
>
> Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones in July.
> One mile per hour over the speed limit and the machine will get you a
> nice $375.00 ticket in the mail. Beginning July 1st, the State of
> Illinois will begin using the speed cameras in areas designated as "Work
> Zones" on major freeways. Anyone caught by these devices will be mailed
> a $375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense. The SECOND offense will cost
> $1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension. Drivers will also receive
> demerit points against their license, which allow insurance companies to
> raise Insurance rates.
>
> This is the harshest penalty structure ever set for a governmental unit
> involving PHOTO speed enforcement. The State already has two camera
> vans on line issuing tickets 24/7 in work zones with speed limits
> lowered to 45 MPH. Photos of both the Driver's face and License plate
> are taken. Pass this on!!!
>
> For more info: (http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r033005.html
> <http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r033005.html> )
>

Saw one of those lovely vans sitting alongside I-57, up by the Champaign construction zone, last weekend.

[avc]

These bastards are fraudulent just like the state of Ohio is with their idiotic license reinstatement fees, those low life's will suspend your license even if you are a non-resident to collect fees.

They are doing this stuff in an attempt to raise money since all states are in budget deficits that they can't ever balance unless these geniuses figure out a new way to defraud people.

Hell we may as well just jump on the train from now on !!! issedoff:




Article published May 07, 2005
DRIVER'S LICENSES
Ohio to pay $4.5 million to settle 2nd DUI fee suit
By MARK REITER
BLADE STAFF WRITER

The state will pay nearly $4.5 million to settle a second class-action lawsuit with Ohio motorists who were wrongfully charged two fees to get their driver's licenses reinstated after drunken-driving convictions.

Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge Frederick McDonald has approved a stipulation agreement between the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles and attorneys who filed the class-action lawsuit in 2003.

According to the order, there were 17,395 instances in which someone was charged two fees, but the class could include people who had multiple offenses.

Fred Stratmann, a spokesman for the BMV, said the checks, which range from $200 to $224, will be sent out before June.

It was the second lawsuit filed against the state in connection with a 1993 law that allowed for the automatic suspension of licenses of suspected drunken drivers whose blood-alcohol levels tested above the legal limit.

The state believed the law allowed for motorists to be charged a $250 administrative fee and another $250 for judicial reinstatement after they were convicted in court.

However, Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge James Jensen, in deciding the first lawsuit that was filed in 1995, said the state incorrectly interpreted the law and told the state to refund the money, a ruling that ultimately was upheld by the Ohio Supreme Court in 2003.


That decision cost Ohio taxpayers about $7 million in reimbursements and interest. The state sent 20,874 checks to Ohio drivers who joined the suit after it was certified as a class-action complaint. Despite Judge Jensen's 1999 decision, the state continued charging motorists the double fees until its appeals were exhausted. The law was amended in 1999 to require one fee. It is now $425.

Mr. Stratmann said the fees continued to be collected because the state believed Judge Jensen's ruling would be reversed on appeal.

"We maintain the law, as it was written, supported our position. Since the Supreme Court feels otherwise, we are going to comply with it and rely on the wisdom and judgment of the court. Settling the case is in the best interest of Ohio," he said.

Toledo attorneys John Czarnecki and Jerome Phillips, who represented the original plaintiffs in the 1995 lawsuit, filed the second action in 2003 on behalf of motorists who were not included in Judge Jensen's decision.

The attorneys received 20 percent of the settlement in the first lawsuit, or about $1.4 million. The agreement calls for them to receive the same percentage in the second complaint, which will be about $900,000.

[Syncrosonix]

photo radar is nothing but a giant scam! the setting is different from illinois. that's the only difference. the motive is still the same, however.

[Orangetxguy]

Originally Posted by avc

these bastards are fraudulent just like the state of ohio is with their idiotic license reinstatement fees, those low life's will suspend your license even if you are a non-resident to collect fees.

They are doing this stuff in an attempt to raise money since all states are in budget deficits that they can't ever balance unless these geniuses figure out a new way to defraud people.

Hell we may as well just jump on the train from now on !!! issedoff:


http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...ws24/505070421

article published may 07, 2005
driver's licenses
ohio to pay $4.5 million to settle 2nd dui fee suit
by mark reiter
blade staff writer

the state will pay nearly $4.5 million to settle a second class-action lawsuit with ohio motorists who were wrongfully charged two fees to get their driver's licenses reinstated after drunken-driving convictions.

lucas county common pleas court judge frederick mcdonald has approved a stipulation agreement between the ohio bureau of motor vehicles and attorneys who filed the class-action lawsuit in 2003.

according to the order, there were 17,395 instances in which someone was charged two fees, but the class could include people who had multiple offenses.

fred stratmann, a spokesman for the bmv, said the checks, which range from $200 to $224, will be sent out before june.

it was the second lawsuit filed against the state in connection with a 1993 law that allowed for the automatic suspension of licenses of suspected drunken drivers whose blood-alcohol levels tested above the legal limit.

the state believed the law allowed for motorists to be charged a $250 administrative fee and another $250 for judicial reinstatement after they were convicted in court.

however, lucas county common pleas court judge james jensen, in deciding the first lawsuit that was filed in 1995, said the state incorrectly interpreted the law and told the state to refund the money, a ruling that ultimately was upheld by the ohio supreme court in 2003.


that decision cost ohio taxpayers about $7 million in reimbursements and interest. The state sent 20,874 checks to ohio drivers who joined the suit after it was certified as a class-action complaint. Despite judge jensen's 1999 decision, the state continued charging motorists the double fees until its appeals were exhausted. The law was amended in 1999 to require one fee. It is now $425.

mr. Stratmann said the fees continued to be collected because the state believed judge jensen's ruling would be reversed on appeal.

"we maintain the law, as it was written, supported our position. Since the supreme court feels otherwise, we are going to comply with it and rely on the wisdom and judgment of the court. Settling the case is in the best interest of ohio," he said.

toledo attorneys john czarnecki and jerome phillips, who represented the original plaintiffs in the 1995 lawsuit, filed the second action in 2003 on behalf of motorists who were not included in judge jensen's decision.

the attorneys received 20 percent of the settlement in the first lawsuit, or about $1.4 million. The agreement calls for them to receive the same percentage in the second complaint, which will be about $900,000.

danger will robinson!! Danger !!! Danger!!!

[FunkRider]

1mph over the limit? Speedometers are only designed to be 95% accurate and factor in tire wear etc

Also how can they issue demerit points to someones license if they don't know who is driving the car?

[Fredog]

Originally Posted by FunkRider

1mph over the limit? Speedometers are only designed to be 95% accurate and factor in tire wear etc

Also how can they issue demerit points to someones license if they don't know who is driving the car?

Photos of both the Driver's face and License plate
> are taken.

[Mr. Ford95]

Go Top Gear in Japan style, get a popsicle stick and put a pic of a face from someone famous on it. Make sure to punch a hole in the eyes so you can still see from behind it, as soon as you see the van's, throw that over your face until your well past it and keep on getting. They will have an awful hard time proving it was you without your face in the pic. Alas, enough people do that and a new law will be implemented in that it's against the law to carry a mask device to elude a Photo Enforcement. Still will have a hard time proving who was driving unless a cop is standing by at the ready to instantly pull you over.

[Fredog]

another foolproof way to deal with it, is JUST DONT GO OVER THE SPEED LIMIT!!

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Fredog

another foolproof way to deal with it, is JUST DONT GO OVER THE SPEED LIMIT!!

DATS RIGHT!!!

Frankly, since I expect that I will be looked at in construction zones, I drive the speed limit for the zone or slightly lower. If my speedo says 45....my truck is actually doing "43". I know that for a fact.

There is absolutely no reason to speed in a construction zone...or anywhere for that matter!!

BTW..... IL has been using "photoradar" in a lot of areas for a long time now.....nothing new.