fed: former wyoming state trooper planned murder
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Let's not forget Gary Ridgway. Convicted of 48 murders, confessed to 71, believed to have killed 90. Most all the victims were prostitutes picked up on the road in the east metro Seattle area. Their bodies were dumped near the Green River Washington area..
Ridgway painted trucks at the Kenworth plant in Renton for thirty years . He is now 60 years old serving time at Walla Walla. LOL...Gary limited his "Kill Zone" to the Greater Puget Sound region! The Green River is not a city, but an actual water way, thet stretch's from the Cascade Mtns, down to Elliot Bay, in downtown Seattle. He also dumped bodies along I-90, Hiway18 in the Auburn area, US2 between Everett and Stevens Pass, and along Hiway 410, between Enumclaw and Mount Rainer National Park. Her was very proud of the paint jobs he laid, on KW trucks. ![]() Maybe he is a CAD reader! You never know.....He might get out on parole and get a job as a "Local" driver making $85,000 a year! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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LOL...Gary limited his "Kill Zone" to the Greater Puget Sound region!
The Green River is not a city, but an actual water way, thet stretch's from the Cascade Mtns, down to Elliot Bay, in downtown Seattle. He also dumped bodies along I-90, Hiway18 in the Auburn area, US2 between Everett and Stevens Pass, and along Hiway 410, between Enumclaw and Mount Rainer National Park. Her was very proud of the paint jobs he laid, on KW trucks. ![]() Maybe he is a CAD reader! You never know.....He might get out on parole and get a job as a "Local" driver making $85,000 a year! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Most of his victims were picked up along Washington State Highway 99. During his confession he did state that all his victims were killed within King County, Washington. Last edited by Creek Jackson; 05-24-2009 at 04:06 AM.
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I just hope he doesn't claim to have beaten my time with Danica! :hellno:
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Thanks for the corrections. I knew Green River was not a city, just did not clarify that well enough I guess.
Most of his victims were picked up along Washington State Highway 99. During his confession he did state that all his victims were killed within King County, Washington. At one time I lived less than 3 blocks from that piece of work. That was when I had an apartment in Federal Way. I remember that just before they picked up Ridgway, they also caught a serial killer that lived in Spokane, and was an Army Reserve helicopter pilot. That piece of work killed women nationwide, while he was on "duty postings" and training exercises at various Army Bases. That guy had a wife and 4 kids as I remember the news stories. 3 girls and a boy. I would not want to be in their shoes. What an ordeal to have to life through. I wonder...does that make every man in the military a potential "Serial Killer"?? How about that AVC?
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Ever see the movie "Minority Report?" :hellno: Just for your consideration.... who said the "killer" truck driver (referenced in this or other threads) was an "outlaw" trucker? He might have had the tightest logs in the business! It is not necessary to cheat your logs in order to commit a crime. In fact, the BEST alibi such a killer could HAVE would be tracking devices and EOBR's. I DO agree that the officer's knowledge of the GPS system might have had SOME deterrent affect in this situation, but I believe it had MORE to do with the rational objections of his wife and fellow officer. But, it would not have stopped him from perpetrating the crime on an O/O or smaller company driver. His mistake was in thinking only of the deep pockets of WalMart, rather than the smaller company who couldn't afford to "lawyer up" to fight him. You call them "outlaws" here, but in another thread you called them the criminally insane. And it is true that the uniform doesn't matter. Witness, the soldier in Iraq who last week killed 5 or so of his comrades in arms in a stress clinic, or that Vietnam vet stationed in NC years ago.... can't remember his name. No.... uniforms don't matter. Experience doesn't matter. Education doesn't matter. Technology probably won't matter in MOST cases. The criminal mind is often "genius" by nature, relative to the technology of the day. What matters is the technology, training and "experience" of those who strive to solve these crimes.... not a government who would try to preclude them by abrogating our civil rights. I am not willing to give up my PERSONAL rights in the "hope" that it will preclude the criminal mind from taking a life. "I" am responsible for making sure that life is not MINE.
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NO.... I DON'T. GPS, unless it is the driver's choice, is an infringement of my 4th Ammendment rights. Same with dash cams. I DO believe that they should be mandatory for cops and many other public servants (who give UP certain rights with the job.) WE the people, should have a right to protection from those we entrust with GUNS and our safety. But, I want nothing to do with the Orwellian age!
Ever see the movie "Minority Report?" :hellno: Just for your consideration.... who said the "killer" truck driver (referenced in this or other threads) was an "outlaw" trucker? He might have had the tightest logs in the business! It is not necessary to cheat your logs in order to commit a crime. In fact, the BEST alibi such a killer could HAVE would be tracking devices and EOBR's. I DO agree that the officer's knowledge of the GPS system might have had SOME deterrent affect in this situation, but I believe it had MORE to do with the rational objections of his wife and fellow officer. But, it would not have stopped him from perpetrating the crime on an O/O or smaller company driver. His mistake was in thinking only of the deep pockets of WalMart, rather than the smaller company who couldn't afford to "lawyer up" to fight him. You call them "outlaws" here, but in another thread you called them the criminally insane. And it is true that the uniform doesn't matter. Witness, the soldier in Iraq who last week killed 5 or so of his comrades in arms in a stress clinic, or that Vietnam vet stationed in NC years ago.... can't remember his name. No.... uniforms don't matter. Experience doesn't matter. Education doesn't matter. Technology probably won't matter in MOST cases. The criminal mind is often "genius" by nature, relative to the technology of the day. What matters is the technology, training and "experience" of those who strive to solve these crimes.... not a government who would try to preclude them by abrogating our civil rights. I am not willing to give up my PERSONAL rights in the "hope" that it will preclude the criminal mind from taking a life. "I" am responsible for making sure that life is not MINE.
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Sorry! I'm having a "Conservative" moment! :lol::lol:
Besides.... the Rev apparently has the weekend off, so I am free to play! ![]() Hope you're having a great Memorial Day weekend there, Stan! You guys got all the trees turned right side up yet?
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Having a pleasant MD weekend and hope you are too!
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NO.... I DON'T. GPS, unless it is the driver's choice, is an infringement of my 4th Ammendment rights. Same with dash cams. I DO believe that they should be mandatory for cops and many other public servants (who give UP certain rights with the job.) WE the people, should have a right to protection from those we entrust with GUNS and our safety. But, I want nothing to do with the Orwellian age!
Ever see the movie "Minority Report?" :hellno: Just for your consideration.... who said the "killer" truck driver (referenced in this or other threads) was an "outlaw" trucker? He might have had the tightest logs in the business! It is not necessary to cheat your logs in order to commit a crime. In fact, the BEST alibi such a killer could HAVE would be tracking devices and EOBR's. I DO agree that the officer's knowledge of the GPS system might have had SOME deterrent affect in this situation, but I believe it had MORE to do with the rational objections of his wife and fellow officer. But, it would not have stopped him from perpetrating the crime on an O/O or smaller company driver. His mistake was in thinking only of the deep pockets of WalMart, rather than the smaller company who couldn't afford to "lawyer up" to fight him. You call them "outlaws" here, but in another thread you called them the criminally insane. And it is true that the uniform doesn't matter. Witness, the soldier in Iraq who last week killed 5 or so of his comrades in arms in a stress clinic, or that Vietnam vet stationed in NC years ago.... can't remember his name. No.... uniforms don't matter. Experience doesn't matter. Education doesn't matter. Technology probably won't matter in MOST cases. The criminal mind is often "genius" by nature, relative to the technology of the day. What matters is the technology, training and "experience" of those who strive to solve these crimes.... not a government who would try to preclude them by abrogating our civil rights. I am not willing to give up my PERSONAL rights in the "hope" that it will preclude the criminal mind from taking a life. "I" am responsible for making sure that life is not MINE.
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Great post golfhobo, very thought provoking indeed.
I see no problem at all with a dash camera, in fact I love to film my trips when I travel and would love to get a professionally installed dash cam where I could film on demand. If I was a pro like you guys I would also want a camera on the rear end too !! I think that GPS is great for many reasons, just like a Lojack device is, because if someone hijacks your truck and kidnaps you to rob your freight, you have a hell of a lot better chance to catch the bastards or it could save you from certain death.
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